Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site decwrl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-morgan!levasseur From: levasseur@morgan.DEC (Ray EMD & S Admin 223-5027) Newsgroups: net.motss Subject: Coupla Things Message-ID: <778@decwrl.UUCP> Date: Thu, 10-Oct-85 11:15:16 EDT Article-I.D.: decwrl.778 Posted: Thu Oct 10 11:15:16 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 12-Oct-85 17:55:20 EDT Sender: daemon@decwrl.UUCP Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 179 Careers, Criticism and Freedom of Expression Jason ***** When I was young the only thing I knew about gay men was that they were supposed to all be effeminate. The only jobs that I knew of them occupying were hairdressers, interior decorators, artists, florists, etc. I can recall my parents being quite upset, when at 12 years old I announced that I wanted to be a florist. "No no son, you don't really want to be a florist now, do you? Only fairies want to be florists." As a prepubescent kid I loved to decorate things and paint. I also loved to cook. These interests didn't win me many points with the other boys who were content playing football and other sports. I also had a quite massive record collection. During the time and in the city I grew up in, it was understood that only girls collected records. The boys used to beat me up, but guess who was asked to disk jockey at sock hops.....you guessed it, the fairy. Well anyway, from the age of 9 I developed an interest in electronics and got my ham license at 11. This was marginally acceptable with the other boys but I was still considered a nerd and only fit in with the science club gang. Teachers were always calling my parents suggesting that I be pulled from public school and placed in a school for sensitive gifted children. Since my folks were not particularly wealthy, I stayed in public school and got beaten up a lot. I really should have been placed in the Provincetown, San Francisco or Fire Island school systems. The one thing that the above ment- ioned stereotypical careers and my interests held in common were that they were all creative. You must understand that I was a product of the 50's and sensitivity was reserved for girls, boys were supposed to be tough. Most of the boys hated science and art classes with a passion and sat dreaming of gym. I on the other hand was terrifid of gym class. This was where both the other boys and the coach could ridicule me to death since I couldn't do a decent pushup or catch a ball. In my junior year of high school the coach called me into his office and promised me, "I look forward to flunking you next year, ya little twerp". You had to pass gym to graduate so I was really scared. I started weight lifting and by the time finals came in my senior year I had big pecs and arms. The coach was really pissed off when I earned my A in physical education. Most of the kids wanted to attend college; the boys mostly to major in Business or Electrical Engineering. I opted for the Navy after a two year junior college education in Industrial Electronics. Boy I'll tell ya, the Navy butched my act up! Well, enough about the past! What I've noticed a lot since coming out is the enormous numbers of gay men in Electronics and the Computer Sciences. It seems that 75-80% of the gay men I meet are programmers, analysts, engineers or at least operators. This could be due to a few reasons; the proliferation of high tech openings in the last couple of decades, gay men getting in touch with their masculinity or the fact that these careers offer opportunities to be creative. At one gay social group meeting the topic of gays in high tech came up. Someone made a comment, "The rallying cry of parents in the 50's and 60's was please son, don't become a hairdresser. Will the rallying cry of the 80's and 90's be please son don't become a software engineer or programmer." Everyone got a chuckle out of the guy's comment since the majority of men present were all computer types. An old friend was a systems analyst and I asked, "Peter, why do you suppose so many gays get into the computer field"? His answer (half joking) was, "Well m'dear, that's obvious, only a computer can give ultimate attitude. Don't play by it's rules and it won't talk to you." I personally just get satisfaction out of getting a program or procedure to run. For me, it's a lot like painting, cooking, etc.....very creative. Another reason that gays may fit in technical positions is that in many companies, personal differences are tolerated more then in a stuffy business environment. The guys who have been most tolerant of my being gay have been technicians and engineers who are sometimes pretty of the wall themselves. They're too busy getting their pet projects completed to have time to dis- criminate against anyone. Of course there are homophobic technical types but I see them less than in accounting, finance, production or other more business minded disciplines. I currently work in an accounting/finance area and the tolerance is markedly less then when I worked as a tech. Of course there are also some pretty live and let live business types around and I've been fortunate to have a few as managers. I think of business and it brings to mind the Alka Seltzer commercial where all the executives are seated ar- ound the boardroom table and the chairman is exclaiming, "Finance, cut back another 15%, sales get another 25%, etc", with all the execs dropping Alka Seltzer in their glasses as he speaks. Most gay men I've met do not like working in an environment like this, who needs the hassles! in college I learned that the most agressive, macho men would succeed in business. A lot of these were the types who beat me up in school. I won't put these guys down because there are folks who honestly enjoy continually having their adrenalin levels pumped up meeting ridiculous deadlines; someone's gotta do it! Most gay men I've met would rather have a job that was more like play than work. This may fit in with the playful qualities I've seen in a lot of gay men. Unless they're of the mean go get'em variety, most will avoid the "Bumstead! I want that report in 5 minutes or you're fired!" type of position. I met a waiter in a San Francisco restaurant who chatted with me after his shift ended. He was previously a big advertising executive in New York. I asked why he gave it all up and his reply was simply that he got very tired of all the bullshit. "why should I kill myself over a job that I hate", he added. This brings up another point about gays in the workplace. Most of us don't have a wife and kids to feed, so we can call it quits a lot easier if the job seems like it's going to be more of a pain than it's worth. The married man on the other hand may have to wait longer to make a career change since the money's gotta keep rolling in or else. A few years ago Psychology Today ran an article about youthfulness. It's findings were that prisoners and gay men seemed to stay younger, longer. The reason for the prisoners was that they were isolated from the pressures of society. The reason for gays was given (in theory) as choosing jobs that were fun and not having the added worries of families. My job itself isn't very much fun but my boss gives me software hacking projects that make it a lot more interesting; the electronics tinkering, dance tape mixing and writing help satisfy my creative urges while I plan a long range career change. Appearances and the judgements they attract are another area. How many of you have been in a gay disco and seen a guy wearing a rainbow colored Mohawk haircut or similar trappings and thought, I wonder what he does for a living. In my field, shirt and tie are de rigeur. Now I'm not very fond of neckties but there is an unwritten law which states I should wear both to the office. I would much more like dressing casual and keep the latter for playing dressup. I prefer jeans and LaCoste shirt or Tee's to ties. Straight friends continually get on my case to dres my age. My answer is, "how should a 38 year old dress, hmmmmm? Where is it written that I must give up my faded jeans when I become an adult?" This line usually leaves them stumped. Another little accessory I've added to my appearance is a 3" long punktail; the rest of my hair is quite short. This does not gain me very many atta boys at the office but is a part of my self expression. It's very hard to explain to a straight, conservative manager that the boys at the bar think it looks hot on me. I met a guy recently who's a sales executive and has a foot long dyed punktail. I asked him how he gets away with it and the reply was that he works for an art supply company and most of his clients are either gay or very bohemian. On my part, family and straight friends are always telling me to "Grow Up!"......but I am quite mature and responsible. Minor things like punktails, faded 501's, Zapata moustaches, and Tee shirts with witty sayings get me blasted from mom and the straight friends who have lost their play- fulness in exchange for 3 piece suits and the Wall Street Journal. I see much less of the non-gay friends I used to hang out with. Matter of fact I get along with their kids better than with them. As one friend said to me, "MTV is for teenagers, I cannot see why you watch it". He and his wife are into elevator music. When I visit, I watch MTV with their 16 year old. The only rock music that they find acceptable comes from the 50's and early 60's. I brought a dance tape over and they thought it was all noise. Maybe a lot of gay folks stay young because they can change with the times more easily than more conservative married people....I dunno, it's a thought! To a couple of the non gay married friends that I've had, I'm known as somewhat eccentric. They have swallowed everything that society preaches about acceptable dress, man- ners, tastes, etc. A couple of straight folks I've known have used the par- able of the grasshopper and the ant to describe me, carefree and frivelous. Actually I'm not that way at all. I, as well as other gays have different worries and concerns than our married peers. They may worry about Junior's braces, getting him into the right college, etc. My worries are more concerned with; will I get fired sometime in the future for being gay, will I get beaten up as I leave a bar, will I loose my apartment, will I contract AIDS, ETC. All are just as valid as my counterpart's. The difference is that I just have me to worry about; no family, no ties. When straight folks start acting envious of my so called worry free lifestyle, I offer to switch places with them for 30 days. The answer is usually, "Uh! no thanks, I'll pass". The area that bothers me most is when non gay friend suggest I settle down with a good woman. one friend's wife has made comments on many occasions that the life I lead is very selfish since I don't have the responsibility or ex- penses of a wife and family. Is this my fault? Did I consciously make a dec- ision to rebel against what society expects? No! I hear them claim that I have all this money to play with but they're the ones who can afford to take expen- sive vacations. They often forget that my rent runs 2-3 times what their mort- gage and taxes do since they bought their house in the early 70's. In some ways this is the same kind of guilt trip my mother tries laying on me, "Why can't you be normal?" I've spent quite a long time trying to decipher what "Normal" really is! I guess for me being normal is being myself, having consideration for others, paying my bills, trying to learn all I can can about the world and attempting to enjoy it all along the way. One thing I've noticed is that the people around me seem to place me under closer scrutiny then others; especially if they know I'm gay but don't really know me as a person. I'm not sure if they are waiting for me to go bonkers and start kissing every man I see on the street, wear evening gowns, molesting young boys, etc. This can be written off to fear of the unknown. As well as I've known a few non gay men, they still act cautious, maybe fearing I'll make a pass at them. This couldn't be further from the truth, but try convincing them. A lot that I've met are certain that my life is one continuous orgy. Many heterosexuals place too much emphasis on the SEX in homo-SEX-ual. This is as much a myth as thinking that all Black men have 12" long penises. One reason that gay men may seem more promiscuous has to do with society's enormous pressures against homosexual relationships. There is a lot of subconscious fear of getting involved and the repercussions it may draw. This is not true 100% of the time but it does affect the ability of a gay man to settle down coupled with their own buried homophobia. So what does this all mean? For me personally it means getting into a career that allows me creative expression, living somewhere that I feel com- fortable in, seeking out people who aren't judgemental, etc. The way it looks now I have a lot of hard work ahead of me. The only thing stopping me from full self expression is my own inner fears. Ray (aka) Jason