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From: david@daisy.UUCP (David Schachter)
Newsgroups: net.motss
Subject: Re: banning pornography
Message-ID: <129@daisy.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 16-Oct-85 03:43:39 EDT
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Posted: Wed Oct 16 03:43:39 1985
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In article <898@utcs.uucp> flaps@utcs.UUCP (Alan J Rosenthal) writes:
> >Would you kill someone because I told you to? If you did, do you think I should
> >be charged with the killing?
>
>If someone is of the temperament to kill me, it is more likely that they will
>kill me if you encourage them to, then if you didn't.
>If they kill me with your encouragement, then there are various arguments about
>which of they and you are MORE responsible, but I don't think that there is
>much doubt that both of you are responsible to some extent.

No, no, and again no!  One is responsible for one's own actions and no others.
If I tell you to do something and you do it, I am only responsible if I am
your guardian.  (The preceding is an opinion.)

Ever since I can remember, it seems our society has been diluting personal
responsiblity.  Ever hear of the Harvey Milk/George Moscone murder?  The
killer, Dan White, partially beat the rap by pleading insanity: he had just
eaten Twinkies and was, therefore, not responsible for his actions.  

If I take a gun and shoot you, I am responsible.  Not my mother or my guru
or my fourth grade english teacher or my deprived background.

Mr. Rosenthal claims that both the actor and the instigator are responsible.
This is an unjustifiable broadening of the already over-broad concept of
"conspiracy to commit".

Of course, everything above is opinion and deserves to be labeled thusly.
In particular, it is not the policy of my company or of any computer or
communications device through which this message has passed.

Um, should this discussion be moved to another group?  If so, which?  MOTSS
has nothing to do with pornography (except that gay porn is, in general,
photographed better than straight stuff. [I hear hackles rising.])