Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site emacs.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!cca!emacs!joe From: joe@emacs.UUCP (Joe Chapman) Newsgroups: net.motss Subject: Gays, deafness, and problems of Linguistics Message-ID: <105@emacs.UUCP> Date: Sat, 19-Oct-85 13:58:33 EDT Article-I.D.: emacs.105 Posted: Sat Oct 19 13:58:33 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 21-Oct-85 07:04:47 EDT Distribution: net Organization: Uniworks Inc., Wellesley, MA Lines: 47 <> In the Boston chapter of ``States of Desire'' Edmund White relates a conversation he had over dinner which touched on the topic of deafness: Why are there so many gay deaf people? One theory: their deafness prevents them from being socialized into concealing their sexuality and so the natural incidence of homosexuality that would occur in any population becomes more evident. I originally looked up this passage after reading Ray/Jason's posting on careers; I was going to argue that we computer-gnurds are an arrogant and talkative bunch, and so we resist being socialized into concealing our sexuality, etc., etc. In the midst of hashing over this and a few derivative notions, some friends of mine turned the conversation back to the deafness theory; it suddenly occurred to me that I've never seen the word ``homosexual'' in American Sign Language. When I talked with a deaf friend a few years ago we invented a sign for ``gay''. I believe the Jerry Falwell interpreter spells the word, though I rarely tune in and have never caught a really homophobic eisegesis. Nothing, either, in the big dictionary with every sign imaginable in it. During the earlier discussions on the net about nomenclature, I believe a few people made the point that the existence of precise terms and definitions for minority groups is necessary for and evidence of oppression of these groups. It would seem to me that either I'm guilty of spreading misinformation, or the possible explanation offered at Ed White's dinner party could true at a cultural level in addition to the individual explanation he offered. Any comments? [ If anyone's curious, the sign Pat and I used for ``gay'' was an effeminate flick of the wrist: hardly politically correct, but it lent itself well to a common method of word-construction. Words like ``king'', ``emperor'', and ``queen'' [regina] are signed with an identical motion, but with the hand held in a position corresponding to a different letter. Our sign could be made with the hand in the L position for ``lesbian'', or Q for ``queen'' [cinaedus], or C for the verb ``to camp'', and I with my bad eyesight could follow it. ] -- Joe Chapman decvax!cca!emacs!joe emacs!joe@cca-unix ``Try a boy for a change. You're a rich man. You can afford the luxuries of life.'' ---Mrs. Prentice, to her husband