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From: dianeh@ISM780.UUCP
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Subject: Re: Still More on Totally Bad Movies
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Date: Thu, 10-Oct-85 19:15:00 EDT
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>The list of Totally Bad Movies, as of 10/7/85, stands at:
>
>...
>*Candy
>*Deal of the Century
>...
> Felicity
>*Zelig
>(Asterisk means new nomination.)
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>...Please, can anyone out there say ANYTHING good about
>ANY of these movies? I need your help in shortening the list.
>
>Following is a summary of the mail I received in support of the
>new nominations.
>
>1) Zelig - boring, boring, boring, and damn disappointing, too.

Couldn't disagree more. This film was innovative -- the matching of old
footage and incorporating Allen into it was extremely well done -- and the
story was funny and poignant.

>4) Deal Of The Century - Never have so many who were so funny been so boring.

Wrong, wrong. This has actually become one of my favorite films. I didn't
see it at the theater because of the way it was originally marketed --
(See Chevy Chase be a buffoon in the `Wonderful World of Arms Dealing'--
so I was pleasantly surprised when I saw it on cable. I've since seen it
3 more times and like it more each time.  Chevy Chase actually gets good
direction and *acts* instead of just being a pratfall, one-liner comedian.
Gregory Hines is great, and Sigourney Weaver has some good scenes.

>6) Candy - directed by Roman Polanski. Interesting from a historical point of
>   view, to illustrate the differences between late '60s soft-porn in Europe
>   and America...Candy is a classic European sex flick of its time - set in
>   a villa, this young girl comes in after a rainy night, having to fend off
>   a truck driver. Sex scene consists of girl taking her clothes off very
>   slowly and admiring herself in the mirror, then semi- playing with
>   herself. Rest of movie she is chased around the villa by a bunch of half-
>   wit pseudo-Fellini-esque characters who play bridge, ping-pong in their
>   underwear, and wear dresses over their spaghetti-stained undershirts.
>   Poor, poor dubbing. Worse acting. Makes chop-socky look well-produced.
>   Movie has no ending - Candy just walks out of the villa.  Probably the
>   best existentialist statement Polanski could muster up."
> - Davis Tucker

It's a good thing you gave a description of *this* particular 'Candy'.
At first I thought you were talking about the ``classic'' with Richard
Burton, John Astin, Marlon Brando (``You can't bring a frozen guru into
California!''), et. al. -- definitely one of my all-time favorites.
Never heard of *this* one, though, so you may be right -- as long as a
clear distinction is made, please.

I have to agree with 'Felicity' (at least the R-rated version shown recently
on Showtime). It's hard to imagine that the X-rated version had any redeeming
qualities, though, unless you consider X-rated scenes redeeming. Really,
it's true about their using the same ``local color'' footage over and over
and over again. Except I think the estimate of 5 times may be too small;
personally, I think it accounted for at least half the running time of the
film -- at least it sure *seemed* that way at the time!

Diane Holt
Interactive Systems Corp.
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