Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site sjuvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!princeton!astrovax!sjuvax!lp102911 From: lp102911@sjuvax.UUCP (palena) Newsgroups: net.music Subject: Re: "Hounds of Love" at number one! Message-ID: <2389@sjuvax.UUCP> Date: Tue, 15-Oct-85 12:24:15 EDT Article-I.D.: sjuvax.2389 Posted: Tue Oct 15 12:24:15 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 18-Oct-85 01:45:50 EDT References: <5410@mit-eddie.UUCP> <2304@sjuvax.UUCP> <76@mit-eddie.UUCP> Reply-To: lp102911@sjuvax.UUCP (Larry Palena) Distribution: net.music Organization: St. Joseph's University, Phila. PA. Lines: 140 Keywords: Kate Bush (What else ?!?!) Summary: Guess!! In article <76@mit-eddie.UUCP> nessus@mit-eddie.UUCP (Doug Alan) writes: >[Another school year begins and another bunch of twits appear on the net....] ...who don't even compare to the bunch of twits who've read the user introduction and know it's a no-no to insult someone across the net because you don't agree with their posting... (Why am I constantly using "..."'s ??) > >> From: Larry Palena > >> I find the statement "quality does prevail" to be ridiculous in >> this context. So this woman outsold Madonna. The same people >> who put Madonna's album at the top of the charts put this "Hounds >> of Love" > >And what makes you think that the same people that buy Madonna albums >buy Kate Bush albums? I'd say the intersection is relatively small ... (here we go again) because you remind me of a good deal of the Madonna fans I know...(off into the sunset) >considering that Kate Bush does wonderful intelligent art rock and >Madonna does awful mindless insulting formula pop dreck. > .. ahhhh,art rock... >Would you say that the same people that put Pink Floyd on the charts put >Madonna on the charts? Oh, by the way, Pink Floyd are my second >favorite artists, and they are one of Kate Bush's biggest influences. >David Gilmour got Kate Bush her record contract, and one of Kate Bush's >songs was recorded at David Gilmour's home. > ...and I don't even like the band that much.I just used that album as an example of good work that retains its value for quite some time.Led Zeppelin IV would've been an equally good example. I don't care if Kate Bush holds orgies at David Gilmour's home, and don't care to speculate what she'd do at Page's house... >> (that title just reeks of intelligence) > >Go ahead, malign something you clearly haven't listened to! (And >probably couldn't understand, anyway.) Advertize your ignorance, >stupidity, and close-mindedness for all the net to see. "We don't need >no education" -- those words just reek of intelligence, right? > >Well if you listen to the song they do, and so does everything Kate Bush >does. These are some lyrics by the person you are maligning: > > In Malta, catch a swallow > For all of the guilty to set them free > Wings fill the window, and they beat and bleed > They hold the sky on the other side > Of borderlines > ...this sounds like a piece of verse that a friend of mine handed in as a creative writing assignment in senior year of high- school.Any copyright lawyers out there ??!!... > >> up there,and you've got your nerve saying that quality has >> prevailed. Nothing new or interesting has prevailed. The people >> who stretched their minds with "Like A Virgin",in search of a "new >> experience" have bought this album and made it popular. > >And *you* have a lot of nerve talking about things of which you know >naught! Go climb back into your hole! > >> In a month when their profound musical appetites seek new quenching >> somebody else will take that coveted #1 position. > >I'm sure you are right that Kate Bush will not hold the number one >position for long. The pattern of her record sales is just like of >Peter Gabriel. For both, their records enter into the British charts >very high, because their dedicated fans, who have had the release date >marked on their calenders for weeks in advance, rush out and buy the >album on the first day. Then, because their albums have relatively >little pop appeal, drop very quickly out of the charts and settle to a >low but consistent position which will gurantee that their albums will >never go out of print. > ...so I stand corrected on this point.I assumed that British record buying habits are like those in this country.I dare anyone to tell me that a good deal of the people who put Michael Jackson on top of the charts in this country didn't do the same for Madonna and won't do the same for Paul-Robert Gilevsky,or whoever takes #1 next.The point you make is that Bush's loyal fans,by buying the album in droves,pushed it to the top of the charts.So your article can be summarized thus; "Lot's of Kate Bush's loyal fans in the U.K. bought so many copies of her new album that it reached #1." to which I reply "Who (besides,of course Kate Bush's loyal fans in England) the hell cares?"dot dot dot >For someone like Madonna, on the other hand, who sells records to kids >who like the sugar-coated crap they hear on the radio, the record rises >in the British charts slowly, then drops out slowly. And in a couple of >years is totally forgotten (thank goodness!). > >> Compare this to "Dark Side of the Moon" which has been on the charts >> for almost a decade. > >Yeah, I guess this just proves your point that anything in the charts is >bought by Madonna fans. > >Sometimes Pink Floyd fans, Beatle fans, etc., really annoy me. It's like >music ended with them or something. Good new music is being made all >the time -- you just gotta look and listen for it. But clearly you've >made up your mind already and have closed your ears. > ...(this is the killer folks) all I've made my mind up about is that you are an ignorant net-hog who seems to think that I've got nothing better to do than 'n' my way past articles about Kate Bush. I don't recall ever comparing good music to good wine... > "Narrow mind would perscute it > Die a little to get to it" > > Doug Alan > nessus@mit-eddie.UUCP (or ARPA) To which Husker Du replies, "Your daydreams aren't forever, better get your shit together..." Larry Palena, St.Joseph's Univ. { astrovax | allegra | bpa | burdvax } !sjuvax!lp102911 (P.S. if you denounce me as a twit once more I'll make the seven hour car trip to Boston and hit you over the head with a monitor.)