Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site tellab1.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!tellab1!barth From: barth@tellab1.UUCP (Barth Richards) Newsgroups: net.music Subject: Re: Fred Frith and Robert Fripp Message-ID: <647@tellab1.UUCP> Date: Thu, 17-Oct-85 13:42:12 EDT Article-I.D.: tellab1.647 Posted: Thu Oct 17 13:42:12 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 19-Oct-85 05:59:13 EDT References: <1126@ritvp.UUCP> <277@weitek.UUCP> <1749@brl-tgr.ARPA> Reply-To: barth@tellab1.UUCP (Barth Richards) Followup-To: net.music Distribution: net.music Organization: Tellabs, Inc., Lisle, IL Lines: 48 Keywords: Fripp, Frith In article <73@mit-eddie.UUCP> nessus@mit-eddie.UUCP (Doug Alan) writes: >> From: Barth Richards > >>> [Me:] Clearly because they are all wrong! The best guitarists are >>> Fred Frith and Robert Frip, and there can be *no* argument. > >> Don't let either one of them find out the other is ranked among the top >> two guitarists in the world. Neither one is overly fond of the other. > >What are their gripes with one another? One would think they'd each >respect each other, in that they are both such innovators.... I'm not exactly sure what their gripes are. You're right though; one would think that they would have mutual respect. I think Fred's (Frith) gripe has to do with the fact that Robert (Fripp) seems to take himself a bit too seriously. Despite the fact that Fripp is a phenominal and inventive guitarist, you really can't deny that he does sometimes seem to have gone over the edge. (e.g. the back cover of LET THE POWER FALL, where he defines the laws by which "systems" operate. Whether you agree with the theories he expresses on this subject or not, you would have to say that this seems a little out of place, i.e. pretentious) on an album cover. I think Fripp's gripe might have to do with not liking ANYONE who says that he takes himself too seriously. I think that Fred is a bit irritated with the British music press. When Robert came out with THE LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN album the BMP thought it was less than expected, and thought that Fred's album was fantastic. (I don't remember, off-hand, which Frith came out at about the same time as THE L.O.G.) When it came to publicity, however, the BMP lavished it on Fripp, with virtually none going to Frith. So, I think that that might have added to the tension between them. Hope this helps to clear things up. (Then again, it may not.) Barth Richards Tellabs, Inc. Lisle, IL "Our time has come, age of the hammerheads This is our mission, to be the DALEKS of God" -Shriekback, "Hammerheads" from the album OIL AND GOLD