Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) Newsgroups: net.music Subject: Re: Fred Frith and Robert Fripp Message-ID: <1913@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Fri, 18-Oct-85 19:12:35 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxd.1913 Posted: Fri Oct 18 19:12:35 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 19-Oct-85 08:22:42 EDT References: <1126@ritvp.UUCP> <277@weitek.UUCP> <1749@brl-tgr.ARPA> Distribution: net.music Organization: Whatever we're calling ourselves this week Lines: 28 Keywords: Fripp, Frith > I think Fred's (Frith) gripe has to do with the fact that Robert (Fripp) seems > to take himself a bit too seriously. Despite the fact that Fripp is a > phenominal and inventive guitarist, you really can't deny that he does > sometimes seem to have gone over the edge. (e.g. the back > cover of LET THE POWER FALL, where he defines the laws by which "systems" > operate. Whether you agree with the theories he expresses on this subject or > not, you would have to say that this seems a little out of place, i.e. > pretentious) on an album cover. I found Fripp's inclusion of such material to be quite interesting, especially the way he relates it all to the music industry. It is applicable in the world of government, business, and society, also, to be sure, but Fripp's notions of the operations of systems apply directly to the "music business", especially how bureaucracies eventually change their purpose from their original intent to the end of preserving their own existence and maximizing it, leading to musical dinsoaurs that flourished in the late 70s and still flourish today. (If there's one thing I find more repulsive than Madonna, it's Grace Slick whining like an old woman how "we built this city" to us young whippersnappers. It seems THIS last generation is more obnoxious about its music than the previous one, wherein our parents used to tell us "you mean you don't know who Benny Goodman is?" Today, you get people like Scott Muni playing "Layla" on the radio and saying "Well, if you don't know what that is, too bad!") I digress. Fripp has always impressed me as one of the more literate and intelligent people in modern "popular" music, and despite his quirks, I find his inclusion of such material interesting. -- "There! I've run rings 'round you logically!" "Oh, intercourse the penguin!" Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr