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From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen)
Newsgroups: net.music
Subject: Re: Finally: The top n album list
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Date: Wed, 31-Dec-69 18:59:59 EDT
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Keywords: self-indulgent whining, divorce

>>           I refuse (with three R's) to believe that "Who's Next"
>>      or any album by our favorite net.star could outrank Led
>>      Zeppelin IV.Consequently I challenge the results of this sur-
>>      vey. [PALENA]

> You don't believe it Larry?? What would you do if I told you that I don't
> even like Led Zep IV that much?? Why is The Wall "history's stupidest
> concept album?? Because it's the true story of Roger Water's life?? Maybe
> you don't like depressing music but I happen to thrive on it and I think
> that the Wall is an incredible album.  [PAUL KIRSCH]

Not to flame you, Paul (I agree with your rebuttal to Palena wholeheartedly),
but although I've liked some of the music from "The Wall", I can't help but
think that as a whole it is a ridiculously self-indulgent egotistical
whining exercise on the part of Roger Waters.  I recall reading his
insistence at the time of the recording of "The Wall" that HE *was* Pink
Floyd, that the band was his ideas, his vision, his music.  The whole theme and
content seemed symptomatic of the whiny "singer-songwriter" motif wherein
the singer talks about his incredible problems in life and blames them
all on the other people around him (often MOTOS's).  (Reminds me a bit
of the ethic in John Parr's "Naughty Naughty" video---when someone doesn't
do what I want, they're at fault, and a happy ending would have them "giving
in" in the end; just one example from MTV.)

Didn't he go through a divorce around this time?  I ask because two of the
biggest "stars" of the moment, Phil Collins and Sting, bolstered their careers
(and found something to write about endlessly) as a result of divorce, and
seem to fit into that same category.  Sting recanted "Every Little Thing She
Does Is Magic" with "Every Breath You Take" (both about his ex-wife).  He
later claimed that "If You Love Someone Set Them Free" was his own answer to
"EBYT".  Yet if you think about it, he wasn't offering to "set free" the one
he had been watching who belonged to him in "EBYT", he was demanding that HE
be set free!  Not to mention "Fortress Around Your Heart"...  (OK, I won't
mention it.)

I digress...
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