Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site laidbak.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!ihnp4!laidbak!jeq From: jeq@laidbak.UUCP (Jonathan E. Quist) Newsgroups: net.music.synth Subject: Re: more about FM Message-ID: <241@laidbak.UUCP> Date: Mon, 7-Oct-85 22:18:51 EDT Article-I.D.: laidbak.241 Posted: Mon Oct 7 22:18:51 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 10-Oct-85 07:58:18 EDT References: <137@nyit.UUCP> Reply-To: jeq@laidbak.UUCP (Jonathan E. Quist) Distribution: net Organization: LAI Chicago Lines: 41 Summary: In article <137@nyit.UUCP> jpl@nyit.UUCP (John Lewis) writes: >I think the idea that FM sounds are quite good got started in the >early days of computer music when it was one of the only affordable >methods known. To my ears this idea is way off--Fm covers the >range of electronic bell sounds, from doorbells to menacing underwater >bells... quite suitable for spacey muzak, or the carefully crafted >bleeps of some serious, modern composers. The popularity of the >Dx synthesizers suggests otherwise, but it may have more to do with >what you get for the money than the actual quality of the sound >(and of course one doesn't have to count on the timbre as >much if other instruments are available) Apparently you haven't been exposed to _good_ Fm sounds. True, with just 2 oscillators you can get a wide range of sounds, but with MANY interconnected oscillators (study the patch diagrams on the dx-7, for starters) you can create some fairly realistic sounds, if you are willing to work at it. Unfortunately, Yamaha didn't include a mechanism for adding random variation in pitch and amplitude, which would have greatly improved realism. Of course, even with these additions, the dx-7's are still limited. What do you want for the price? A composer friend of mine has worked extensively in sound design with the Yamahas. He has access to a TX-816 (something more than 8 dx-7's), 2 dx-7's, and many $$ worth of computers running the MIDI, yet he still wishes he had more. With that much, though, he gets some extremely rich sounds. I don't mean to put down the dx-7's, but the preprogrammed sounds have a tendency to be a bit hokey. Still, if you take one you like, and twiddle the knobs a bit, the results can be quite satisfying. Jonathan E. Quist ihnp4!laidbak!jeq