Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!ucbernie!shebanow From: shebanow@ucbernie.BERKELEY.EDU (Mike Shebanow) Newsgroups: net.news,net.micro.mac Subject: Re: Cleaning up net.sources.mac Message-ID: <10674@ucbvax.ARPA> Date: Wed, 16-Oct-85 00:14:11 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.10674 Posted: Wed Oct 16 00:14:11 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 17-Oct-85 01:15:01 EDT References: <1134@sdcsvax.UUCP> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.ARPA Reply-To: shebanow@ucbernie.UUCP (Mike Shebanow) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 103 Keywords: net.shareware.mac Xref: watmath net.news:4064 net.micro.mac:2988 [ Beware of the line eater... Why is this bug still around? ] Recently, Joel West (jww@sdscvax) published a letter in which he criticized the proliferation of freeware in net.sources.mac. To quote: > However, it appears that net.sources.mac is now being filled with > "shareware". Since I don't see Microsoft or Lotus using it for > distribution, I must conclude that the software there is: > * Not worth enough to support conventional distribution > channels -- either in testing, documentation, or support; or > * The author thinks he can get others to do his work for him > for free. > > (lest someone think I exaggerate the magnitude of this, I've > enclosed a typescript at the end that I encourage you to try) > > Shareware is useful, but I don't think various sites should pay > their TelCo for someone else's marketing. I propose we either > 1. Ban shareware from the net or > 2. Confine it to specific newsgroups (mod.shareware) > that sites may or may not carry. As a developer who has posted shareware to net.sources.mac, I feel compelled to argue his extremely negative assessment of shareware. First of all, it is not reasonable to divide all software into two camps: public domain and commercial. Shareware came into existence because developers felt a need to profit from their labor while avoiding the nastier aspects of licensing software to a publisher (like dealing with the all-too-common royalty audit). It would be great if we could just give our software away, but I for one can not afford to spend several hundred hours on a program I am going to give away. And it should be pointed out that shareware is not exactly the fast track to massive profit: for every copy of a program that is registered, hundreds (if not thousands) of unregistered copies are used by the unscrupulous and the lazy. (Yes, you should feel guilty). I will consider myself very, very lucky if I break even on my program. In fact, in spite of my attraction to the freeware concept, I doubt that I will release another shareware product. The number of responses has been an order of magnitude too small. Shareware is not simply a way for developers to avoid the normal obligations associated with publishing software. Shareware actually provides many benefits for both the developer and the user. For the developer, shareware has these advantages: 1) Shareware allows small independent software developers to have their products get wide distribution without having to give magazines large quantities of money for small and marginally effective ads. 2) Shareware gives developers a way to distribute useful products intended for small markets for a profit (although not a very big one). Many software packages are refused by publishers because they are unlikely to be stocked in a retail outlet due to their limited marketplace. 3) Shareware provides a way for a small developer to achieve recognition for its later products, and a 'track history' in the software market. For the user, shareware has these advantages: 1) It allows users to try a product for an extensive period of time without any signifigant cost. 2) It avoids the 'rip-off' feeling that people get when they find out that the product in the fancy box with the glossy but uninformative demo program turns out to be useless. Distributing a product as shareware does not imply a lack of support, documentation or testing. I can only speak from personal experience, but I guarantee that people who send me money for my program (a Make utility) will receive far better support from me than they will from MicroSoft for their copy of Word (have you ever tried to call MicroSoft? I have been kept on hold by them for more than 30 minutes!). While my documentation may not be spiral-bound, it should provide all the information that is necessary to use the program. And I and several friends used the product for quite some time before it was placed on the net. Now for a disclaimer: like commercial software, shareware is often of very poor quality. Most of the shareware distributed is not very interesting, but I believe it would be foolish to ban all freeware from the net because some of it is poorly done. Look at the programs which have been distributed as shareware (FEdit, Red Ryder, and the Mock series of desk accessories for the Mac, and PCWrite & PCTalk, for the IBM PC). I hope that I have given enough reason for net.sources.mac to remain a safe harbor for shareware. If worse comes to worse, I think that having a seperate net.shareware.mac (or some such) would be tolerable. I think that banning shareware from the net would be a tragedy. In any event, the whole discussion may soon be a moot point. Shareware may be extinct soon, and I think that that will be the real tragedy. If you use a shareware program more than once every two monthes or so, send in your registration fees. You will be doing a service to the user community. Andrew G. Shebanow HyperSoft