Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site looking.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!looking!brad From: brad@looking.UUCP (Brad Templeton) Newsgroups: net.news Subject: RN is at fault for all this included text Message-ID: <445@looking.UUCP> Date: Tue, 22-Oct-85 12:56:10 EDT Article-I.D.: looking.445 Posted: Tue Oct 22 12:56:10 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 23-Oct-85 04:48:03 EDT References: <3220@ut-sally.UUCP> <910@abnji.UUCP> Reply-To: brad@looking.UUCP (Brad Templeton) Organization: Looking Glass Software Ltd. Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 19 Summary: It's been suggested that if RN didn't have an "F" command, people would just use editors. This is not the case. There was a massive increase in the amount of included text on the net with the introduction of RN. When I saw the "F" feature in an early release, I wrote an urgent message to Larry Wall begging him to take this feature out. He didn't agree that it would be as bad as I suggested. I suspect current trends prove me right. Remember the rule for USENET software design: Articles are posted once, but read a thousand times. Anything that makes it 1% easier for a reader and 500% harder for the poster is worth it. To my mind, this justifies moderators (as I have described them) and careful checks in posting software, along with a plethora of keywords. Right now the net is (roughly) reader-pays, so it should be reader driven. If you put in the option for poster-pays, this would change. -- Brad Templeton, Looking Glass Software Ltd. - Waterloo, Ontario 519/884-7473