Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site gatech.CSNET Path: utzoo!linus!gatech!spaf From: spaf@gatech.CSNET (Gene Spafford) Newsgroups: net.news.group Subject: Re: fa -> mod discussion Message-ID: <1540@gatech.CSNET> Date: Thu, 17-Oct-85 13:48:42 EDT Article-I.D.: gatech.1540 Posted: Thu Oct 17 13:48:42 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 18-Oct-85 21:27:08 EDT References: <10542@ucbvax.ARPA> <831@vortex.UUCP> <10570@ucbvax.ARPA> <190@l5.uucp> Reply-To: spaf@gatech.UUCP (Gene Spafford) Organization: The Clouds Project, School of ICS, Georgia Tech Lines: 49 In article <190@l5.uucp> gnu@l5.uucp (John Gilmore) writes: >In the New Regime, to post something to the newsgroup requires that >your system adminitrator maintain a "moderators" file. This file is >NOT maintained automatically, since it contains mail addresses that (in >the uucp world) must be different for each system. No, it is different only for sites that cannot understand addresses of the form foo@bar.ARPA or foo@bar.UUCP. >The New Regime won't work at all unless >everybody is conscientious about maintaining their "moderators" file. That means about 15 minutes work every few months to update the file. If someone views that as a hardship then they probably don't have the time to read or post news, either. >(I do this for L5 and it took about an hour to translate the >"user@host.uucp" stuff supplied by the net wizards into uucp paths from >my location, for the existing set of 16 moderated worldwide >newsgroups. You are proposing at least doubling this number.) I provide connectivity information for each site relative to well-known sites. With a printout in hand it took me less than 10 minutes to come up with the paths. If it took you an hour, you must be terribly isolated in terms of uucp connections, or else you aren't very familiar with how to reach the "outside" world. Once you've created such a file, it will hardly ever change. Updates of one or two moderators every few months can be folded in in under 5 minutes apiece, I would bet. >It would be awfully nice if the netnews software maintained this info >for us, but it doesn't. It can't as long as sites run mailers that cannot understand foo@bar mail addresses. >When I suggested (privately) that fa could >convert to mod, I didn't realize mod groups required manual maintenance >at every site. What do we do? Avoid posting to moderated newsgroups :-) It doesn't require any maintenance to READ the groups.... -- Gene "3 months and counting slowly" Spafford The Clouds Project, School of ICS, Georgia Tech, Atlanta GA 30332 CSNet: Spaf @ GATech ARPA: Spaf%GATech.CSNet @ CSNet-Relay.ARPA uucp: ...!{akgua,allegra,hplabs,ihnp4,linus,seismo,ulysses}!gatech!spaf