Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site imsvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!ucbvax!ucdavis!lll-crg!gymble!umcp-cs!seismo!elsie!imsvax!ted From: ted@imsvax.UUCP (Ted Holden) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: mammoths in the arctic Message-ID: <428@imsvax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 10-Oct-85 16:44:44 EDT Article-I.D.: imsvax.428 Posted: Thu Oct 10 16:44:44 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 12-Oct-85 07:56:45 EDT Organization: IMS Inc, Rockville MD Lines: 67 My apologies to anyone who has seen this article more than once. We've been having major problems with usenet in the D.C. area. Since Sept. 15, when the CVL computer at U. Md. was taken down with no warning to anyone below it on usenet (which is most of the D.C. area), very little has gotten through one way or the other. For awhile, it will be difficult to tell what has gotten through and what hasn't. Where would you go to look for mammoth bones? As good a place as any would be the Liakhov and Novo Sibirsk islands, which lie between Siberia and the polar ice cap. D. Gath Whitley, in an article titled "The Ivory Islands in the Arctic Ocean" in the Journal of the Philosophical Society of Great Britain, wrote the following concerning the Liakhovs: Such was the enormous quantity of mammoth remains that it seemed ... that the island was actually composed of the bones and tusks of elephants, cemented together by icy sand. The same is true of all of the Liakhov and Novo Sibirsk islands. There is no question of man having killed all these mammoths off; humans don't inhabit the area. Novo Sibirsk and the Liakhovs are a frozen wasteland for all but two months of the year, during which they are a semi-frozen wasteland. The real question is, "How in the world did elephants live there to begin with?". Most scholars, (who have never really thought about the problems involved), see the mammoths with their woolly coats and figure they must have had an easy time living in ice and snow. But that is rubbish. No fur coat of any kind would prevent any creature from starving, which is all that would happen to any kind of elephant which were to parachute into Novo Sibirsk today. In fact, amongst the creatures which have good fur coats and would not last a single day in Novo Sibirsk in winter, one could mention lions, leopards, gorillas, chimps, orangs, AND the woolly mammoth. Elephants require a great quantity of leaves to eat, EVERY DAY OF THE YEAR, and they aren't terribly good at walking huge distances to find it. Therefore, you only find them in tropical zones. There is no possibility that an elephant could survive the winter in Va. or Md., much less Novo Sibirsk. To do so, he would have to either make it on pine needles and/or dead leaves, or hibernate; there is no way. If a road from India to Novo Sibirsk were opened, no elephant foolish enough to take it would ever get there; he would perish in the Russian winter far short of the promised land. Immanuel Velikovsky's scenario in which the mammoths were living peacefully in their tropical forrest until it became an arctic zone overnight, so quickly in fact, that some of their bodies froze before decomposing at all and remain thus perfectly preserved today, is the only scenario possible for these creatures. Given the uniformitarian version of the earth's history, no mammoth bones would ever have been found in such a place. The pictures and displays which science presents of mammoths walking around in ice and snow, are actually more properly suited to the realm of psychadelia, pink dancing elephants, Dr. Timothy Leary etc. The next time any of you see such a display in a museum, rather than saying to the exhibit director: "I say, you chaps must keep on your toes, to know so much about creatures which perished so long ago." which is what he expects to hear, say: "HEY MAN, what you been SMOKIN, to have dreamed THAT **** up?" which is what he deserves to hear.