Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site imsvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!ucbvax!ucdavis!lll-crg!gymble!umcp-cs!seismo!elsie!imsvax!ted From: ted@imsvax.UUCP (Ted Holden) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: A case of mistaken identity Message-ID: <434@imsvax.UUCP> Date: Mon, 14-Oct-85 23:37:29 EDT Article-I.D.: imsvax.434 Posted: Mon Oct 14 23:37:29 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 17-Oct-85 01:44:08 EDT Organization: IMS Inc, Rockville MD Lines: 53 Chris Lewis writes: >In article <425@imsvax.UUCP> ted@imsvax.UUCP (Ted Holden) writes: >> >>At least one reader has misunderstood one of my statements regarding the >>... >> >>b. In the archaic world, with its lesser gravity, the correct model would be ??????????????????????? >>a vulture-like creature which mostly glided and sought free rides in thermal >>currents and winds, YET NONETHELESS HAD THE POWER TO TAKE OFF FROM LOW GROUND >>AND TO GET BACK HOME AGAINST THE WIND IF IT ABSOLUTELY HAD TO. >Are you *STILL* spouting this bullshit? SHEESH! You seem to be mistaking me for Michael McNeil or Piotr Berman. I am spouting CATASTROPHISM, the only theory of origins which makes sense. The gentlemen I mentioned are attempting to defend what I would call a "bullshit" theory concerning the extinction of the earth's megafauna, actually bullshit both literally and figuratively. They are claiming that by smearing the afore- mentioned comodity all over themselves, ancient man could have snuck up on mammoth herds in Northern Russia and Siberia, and killed enough of them (by cutting their achilles tendons with their straight-razors or spears) to have caused the extinction of the mammoths. Now, this theory seems like bull.... to me (forgive me if I seem to be having too much fun with this one) for several reasons, not the least of which would be one related to the notion of evolution by sexual selection which I read about in various articles on evolution. This would come about due to the fact that it is too cold to ever take showers in Siberia; anyone who hunted that way THERE would never smell right again until the day of judgement, and St. Peter would probably laugh at him then. Now, I claim that this would result in a problem for these hunters when they sought wives for themselves. I mean, have you ever walked into a bar all covered with bullshit and tried to pick up women? I've never tried it but I have to believe it would be pretty near impossible. Thus, I claim that natural selection would have favored hunters who went out and killed deers and rabbits and ducks, and that those who smeared bullshit over themselves and went out after mammoths would have had no progeny. What about the stories you hear about Masai or Pigmy tribesmen killing lions and elephants? From what I can gather, talking to people who have spent time in Africa, this invariably amounts to a once-in-a-lifetime initiation rite or something, and that about half the people attempting such things get killed. This couldn't put a dent in elephant or lion populations; humans would have to be hunting lions or elephants on a regular basis to pose any real threat to them, and nobody is going to be doing anything that dangerous on a regular basis. Being a predator doesn't work that way, for any animal including man. If a predator hunts prey which is capable of killing or disabling him even once out of a hundred times, then, statistically, he isn't going to live longer than his hundredth hunt, in most cases, less than a year.