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From: clewis@mnetor.UUCP (Chris Lewis)
Newsgroups: net.origins
Subject: Re: A case of mistaken identity
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Date: Fri, 18-Oct-85 08:33:48 EDT
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Posted: Fri Oct 18 08:33:48 1985
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In article <434@imsvax.UUCP> ted@imsvax.UUCP (Ted Holden) writes:
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>Chris Lewis writes:
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>>In article <425@imsvax.UUCP> ted@imsvax.UUCP (Ted Holden) writes:
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>>>At least one reader has misunderstood one of my statements regarding the
>>>...
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>>>b.  In the archaic world, with its lesser gravity, the correct model would be
>                           ???????????????????????
>>>a vulture-like creature which mostly glided and sought free rides in thermal
>>>currents and winds, YET NONETHELESS HAD THE POWER TO TAKE OFF FROM LOW GROUND
>>>AND TO GET BACK HOME AGAINST THE WIND IF IT ABSOLUTELY HAD TO.
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>>Are you *STILL* spouting this bullshit?  SHEESH!
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>    You seem to be mistaking me for Michael McNeil or Piotr Berman.  I am
>spouting CATASTROPHISM, the only theory of origins which makes sense.  The

You seem to have changed the topic.  What I was referring to was that
several posters (including myself) have proved that lower gravity could
not have been brought about by having Venus or Saturn orbitting nearby
for several reasons.  You seem to have accepted this, and are now
spouting theories about magnetic shell changes reducing the gravity of
the earth.  Interesting, but no cigar because there is no connection
between gravitation and planetary magnetism.  As other posters have
pointed out.

Now, I don't personally I don't think that ancient man could have made a serious
dent in the populations of Mammoths etc.  However, there are lots of other
things that could have done so.  See my previous posting on climactic cycles.
Polar precession, which is a measureable and proven phenomenon is perfectly
adequate in explaining how the Mammoths died off in Siberia.  A fluctuation
of 10C in the annual average temp. is perfectly capable of increasing the 
winter snow depth to prevent Mammoths from feeding.

>which I read about in various articles on evolution.  This would come about
>due to the fact that it is too cold to ever take showers in Siberia; anyone
>who hunted that way THERE would never smell right again until the day of
>judgement, and St. Peter would probably laugh at him then.  Now, I claim
>that this would result in a problem for these hunters when they sought
>wives for themselves.  I mean, have you ever walked into a bar all covered
>with bullshit and tried to pick up women?  I've never tried it but I have
>to believe it would be pretty near impossible.  Thus, I claim that natural
>selection would have favored hunters who went out and killed deers and rabbits
>and ducks, and that those who smeared bullshit over themselves and went out
>after mammoths would have had no progeny.

First of all, you show a complete lack of understanding what the climate of
Siberia is like.  Certainly, winters are COLD (averaging around -40 to -50
if I remember rightly), but the summers are quite warm (upper 70's) and are 
several months long.  They can grow crops up there during the summer.
Perfectly reasonable for having "showers".
I mentioned this in my previous posting.
Certainly, waiting 8 months or so for a shower isn't particularly nice.
However, read a little history - in Shakespeare's time, people only had one
bath per year, when it was time to cut off their winter clothing.  Many
people wore the same clothes for several months.  The people thought that
baths caused diseases.

Further, many CURRENT cultures (as well as many ancient ones, including
17th century England) had different attitudes towards cleanliness and
the appropriate handling of feces.  Many native tribes actually DO hunt
smeared with excrement EVEN NOW.
-- 
Chris Lewis,
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