Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site gargoyle.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!gargoyle!carnes From: carnes@gargoyle.UUCP (Richard Carnes) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: "light" gravity/ replies to Throop & Sonntag Message-ID: <223@gargoyle.UUCP> Date: Wed, 23-Oct-85 11:11:05 EDT Article-I.D.: gargoyle.223 Posted: Wed Oct 23 11:11:05 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 25-Oct-85 02:02:00 EDT References: <424@imsvax.UUCP> <7112@ucla-cs.ARPA> Reply-To: carnes@gargoyle.UUCP (Richard Carnes) Organization: U. of Chicago, Computer Science Dept. Lines: 32 In article <7112@ucla-cs.ARPA> reiher@ucla-cs.UUCP (Peter Reiher) writes: > Only the fact that the net >is richer in experts in the physical sciences rather than myth and history >has prevented Velikovsky from being raked over those coals, as well. I would >suggest that Mr. Holden keep quiet about this, or a true expert on ancient >cultures may get incensed enough to totally destroy this position, as well. Some of us who are knowledgeable about ancient cultures have more interesting things to do than to respond to Holden's postings, which is about as productive as arguing with someone who claims to be Jesus. Now that I mention it, perhaps he *does* think he is Jesus -- I don't think he has ever denied being Jesus, and it sort of fits the rest of his cosmology. Anyone for starting the First Church of Holden, Scientist? It would make a great cult. There is no reason to respond to his writings about mythology because he has not presented one single argument against accepted interpretations of mythology, and indeed he appears unaware that there are any non-Velikovskian theories of myth. He uses Ovid as a source for ancient history, which is like using *Paradise Lost* as evidence that the Garden of Eden existed, or Wagner's Ring as evidence for the existence of Wotan, Siegfried, Valhalla, etc. Anyone who wishes to learn about mythology might start with something by Joseph Campbell. This is recommended for creationists, too, since they have no understanding whatsoever of the nature of myth; on the other hand they have no desire to learn, either, since the whole point of creationism is the uncritical acceptance of myth as historical fact. -- Richard Carnes, ihnp4!gargoyle!carnes