Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: Science: from specialization to incompetence Message-ID: <1875@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Sat, 12-Oct-85 13:20:54 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxd.1875 Posted: Sat Oct 12 13:20:54 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 14-Oct-85 04:01:21 EDT References: <253@yetti.UUCP> <1727@pyuxd.UUCP> <690@mmintl.UUCP> Organization: Whatever we're calling ourselves this week Lines: 23 >> I recently encountered the height of unscientific arrogance in the >> quotes below from B.F. Skinner: [ etc. ] [ELLIS] > I hope it is not overlooked that the work of twisted minds > such as Skinner's is not idle speculation confined safely to > the laboratory, but rather a grand experiment in which we > are all the subjects (victims). Naive parents read that > so-called experts advocate certain practices and > inflict same on their poor children ... (do we really > want someone who claims we don't exist running our lives?) > > (I should qualify the above by saying that I have been biased > against Skinner for many years.) [ucbvax!usenet ????] I hadn't noticed. With such a magnificent summarizing statement, it is obvious that you are a "scientist" and not one of those dreadful "Rosenists" (as described in the headings of 110% of the articles in this newsgroup) who "attack" all the things we happen to believe because of such biases. (Quotes most necessary.) -- Meanwhile, the Germans were engaging in their heavy cream experiments in Finland, where the results kept coming out like Swiss cheese... Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr