Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site aecom.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!aecom!berger From: berger@aecom.UUCP (Mitchell Berger) Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: Re: Sc--nce Attack (self-awareness) Message-ID: <1949@aecom.UUCP> Date: Tue, 15-Oct-85 17:29:09 EDT Article-I.D.: aecom.1949 Posted: Tue Oct 15 17:29:09 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 17-Oct-85 07:27:07 EDT Organization: Albert Einstein Coll. of Med., NY Lines: 15 > My understanding is that Godel's incompleteness theorems prove > (assuming the consistency of Arithmetic) that no Turing machine > can possibly simulate the human mind. What Godel's theorem says is that if one assumes Math to be consistent, it must be incomplete. Thus, a Turing machine is either inconsistant or incomplete. Who ever said the brain is consistant or complete? Why is it outside the realm of Turing Machines? Micha Berger Any ideas represented in this posting are purely the author's own, but he won't take blame for them either.