Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!ucbernie!rimey From: rimey@ucbernie.BERKELEY.EDU (Ken &) Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: Re: Quantum electrodynamics and Feynman diagrams Message-ID: <10634@ucbvax.ARPA> Date: Sun, 13-Oct-85 00:13:39 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.10634 Posted: Sun Oct 13 00:13:39 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 14-Oct-85 04:12:18 EDT References: <326@bcsaic.UUCP> <608@mtung.UUCP> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.ARPA Reply-To: rimey@dali.berkeley.EDU (Ken Rimey) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 20 Summary: No, the Coulomb force does not involve real photons. >Surely you are mixing up 'real' and 'virtual' photons. In >the case where the two charged particles act upon (repel or >attract) each other a 'real' photon is involved. ... > >Jonathan Clark >[NAC]!mtung!jhc No, the force between two charged particles does not involve real photons. Hold two identically charged pith balls near each other. You will not detect any light or radio waves between them. You say that virtual particles exist only for short times, and therefore shouldn't be able to travel large distances. Indeed, this is the reason that the strong nuclear force has a finite range. But moving clocks run slow, and clocks on photons don't run at all. This is why the force between charged particles can be felt even at large distances. Ken Rimey rimey@dali.berkeley.edu ucbvax!dali!rimey