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From: josh@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU (J Storrs Hall)
Newsgroups: net.physics
Subject: Re: Joseph Newman's Energy Machine
Message-ID: <4043@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU>
Date: Tue, 15-Oct-85 23:00:11 EDT
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Posted: Tue Oct 15 23:00:11 1985
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Reply-To: josh@topaz.UUCP (J Storrs Hall)
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
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Keywords: laws of physics

>>     Today, I had the oppurnity to attend the first public showing of the
>>Energy Machine of Joseph Newman.

>>...  The machine which I saw operate today used several lantern batteries
>>for a power source... connected to the machine's ouput leads were a neon
>>sign and about 12 florescent tubes (each 5 feet long).  
>>the energy
>>being generated by the machine was coming directly for the conversion of
>>copper to energy (E=MC^2).
>
>if this is true, how about a measurement of the weight of the copper after
>a test of some duration?  There should be quite measurable changes in weight.

If the machine pushed out a kilowatt (roughly right for what's described)
for an hour (no indication given) the mass equivalent would be 0.04 micrograms.
For comparison, if in use the machine (200 lbs of copper) warmed *just one
degree*, the difference in air bouyancy due to thermal expansion would be 
about 300 micrograms.  So I would not be surprised if Newman could
actually "demonstrate" mass loss.  (But how does he deal with conservation
of baryon number?)

--JoSH

(ps-- was the *entire* machine visible?  100 lbs of lead-acid battery
will store about a kWh of energy...)