Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site aoa.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!ucbvax!ucdavis!lll-crg!seismo!harvard!bbnccv!bbncca!aoa!carl From: carl@aoa.UUCP (Carl Witthoft) Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: Re: Magic Engine??? Probably not. Message-ID: <327@aoa.UUCP> Date: Fri, 18-Oct-85 08:31:20 EDT Article-I.D.: aoa.327 Posted: Fri Oct 18 08:31:20 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 21-Oct-85 04:52:31 EDT References: <824@decwrl.UUCP> <528@talcott.UUCP> Reply-To: carl@aoa.UUCP (Carl Witthoft) Organization: Adaptive Optics Assoc., Cambridge, Mass. USA Lines: 22 ( This is a followup to all that junk about machines with efficiency >>1 ) There was a show on PBS a couple years ago, NOVA or SCIENCE, or something, which spent a delightful half hour with an admitted liar. This gent spends his time building perpetual motion machines, which he puts in a room, turns on, and says: " THis is a fake perpetual motion machine. You may measure it with any instrument you like, but you may not touch it, disassemble it, or stop it. Try to find out what really makes it go." The TV show had teams of MIT or some tech school students go at it with marginal success. My point is : it's much harder to find the fakery than it is to create it. Darwin's Dad (Carl Witthoft) ...!{decvax,linus,ima,ihnp4}!bbncca!aoa!carl @ Adaptive Optics Assoc., 54 Cambridgepark Dr. Cambridge, MA 02140 617-864-0201 " Buffet-Crampon R-13 , VanDoren B-45, and VanDoren Fortes ."