Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site petrus.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!mwg From: mwg@petrus.UUCP (Mark Garrett) Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: Re: Friction Message-ID: <655@petrus.UUCP> Date: Wed, 23-Oct-85 09:16:47 EDT Article-I.D.: petrus.655 Posted: Wed Oct 23 09:16:47 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 24-Oct-85 07:45:53 EDT References: <956@decwrl.UUCP> Organization: Bell Communications Research, Inc Lines: 25 ++ > Here's another car/tire question: > It is very much easier to turn the wheel (using the steering wheel) of > a moving car than that of a stationary car. The surface area of tire > on the road does not change as it begins to rotate. The difference in > ease of turning, then, is the difference between friction on > stationary object and friction on a moving object. What is the > mathematical relation, in this case, between the two frictions? Can > this relation be generalized for other objects? > -R. Shuster Actually, when the car is stationary, the friction is dynamic, and when it is moving the friction is static! The real issue is the friction involved in the stress of the tire. Suppose the car is stopped. When you turn the wheel slightly, you distort the tire somewhat. The footprint stays in the same place but the rest of the tire is moved. As the car rolls forward, the tire comes back into shape, and the contact patch re-orients itself to the direction of the rest of the tire. If you force the wheel when stationary, then you drag the contact patch across the pavement (very difficult); if you are rolling, then the only friction is that of the sheer forces inside the (distorted) rubber. The faster you are moving, the less the tire is distorted before being able to restore its shape. Therefore, the steering resistance decreses with increasing speed, although this function is very non-linear. -MWG