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From: ray@rochester.UUCP (Ray Frank)
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Subject: Re: "Secular Humanism" banned in the US Schools.
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> 
> OK.  Accepting Hume, we get Occam's Razor: use the minimum explanation
> 
> necessary to cover the facts.  We see x-rays in Cygnus X-1; these x-rays are
> consistent with those emitted by an accretion disk around a black hole; we
> know of no other phenomenon that could generate them. Ergo, we are looking at
> a black hole.
> 

"We know of no other phenomenon that could generate them."  This sounds typical
of man taloring the cosmos to fit his theories, helps him sleep at night.  
 
I've often heard it said that each answer produces three questions, a simple
mathematical progression would show that our ignorance is aproaching infinity.
By this reasoning we should become more humble in our ignorance as a token of
our respect for the elegant complexity of nature.  Eventually we should realize
that all this complexity is not a result of a big bang accidently randomizing
atoms into elegance but had as it's driving force a being who has all the
answers and no questions.  I know, sounds like the old "have to accept it
laymen and learned alike, the laymen could not begin to work it out 
mathematically, so they just accept on faith that what someone worked out
in principle is correct and true and they believe it while not ever being able
to 'see' it for themselves.  
to 'see' it for themselves, so faith is used by all of us all the time, there
is nothing mysterious about faith.

to the time and distance the light travels rather than the dopler effect of
the galaxies sp distance that light travelse ather the the dopler effect of
the galaxies speeding away from us.  If the former became accepted, we would
have to rewrite a lot of text books.  Oh well so much for faith in fallible
human reasoning.  

> Where is the creationist parallel?  What do we observe in nature that requires
> a Creator? That is, what phenomenon do we observe that cannot be explained by
> accepted physical (and chemical, and biological) theory, but could be explained
> by the existence of a Creator?  Where, if you like, is the Babel Fish?
> 
> 
> 								-- Rick.

A leaf.  Make me a leaf using all your accepted physical (and chemical, and 
biological) theories. 

faithfully yours

 ray