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From: mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz)
Newsgroups: net.politics.theory,net.politics
Subject: Re: Extent of hunger in America
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Date: Sun, 20-Oct-85 19:22:36 EDT
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In article <4080@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> josh@topaz.UUCP (J Storrs Hall) writes:
> But make no mistake:  As Mike has so kindly pointed out, the actual 
> physical problem of hunger is quite separate from the social engineering
> goals of those who talk about it most often.  To quote myself,
> 
> >> [The socialist] is *not interested in hunger per se*.
> >> He is interested instead in *using* hunger to further his political ends.
> >> He is, in a word, EXPLOITING the hungry.

I suppose you must quote yourself, since nobody else seems to think in such
a twisted manner.  :-(

How would I be exploiting the hungry by giving them the food they want?
I'm certainly not coercing them.  I'm not asking anything in return: just
making a case why we should do more than feed the hungry minimally.

A definition of exploit in my dictionary sounds like what you have in mind:
to make use of selfishly or unethically.  How do you suggest I am exploiting
anyone by arguing for better than minimal food?  Maybe if I was stubborn
enough to let people starve instead of getting the full program I would
prefer?

But I'm sure you would stand by proudly watching them starve and beat
your chest exclaiming "Well, at least I'm not expoiting them by making
them accept food!"
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Mike Huybensz		...decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0!mrh