Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site psivax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!qantel!hplabs!sdcrdcf!psivax!friesen From: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Military Preparedness Message-ID: <761@psivax.UUCP> Date: Mon, 30-Sep-85 11:58:18 EDT Article-I.D.: psivax.761 Posted: Mon Sep 30 11:58:18 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 7-Oct-85 03:15:52 EDT References: <3690@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> Reply-To: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Organization: Pacesetter Systems Inc., Sylmar, CA Lines: 33 Summary: In article <3690@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> josh@topaz.UUCP (J Storrs Hall) writes: > >What if the Army, Navy, and Air Force turn traitor? *Who would >stop them?* Why do you think the other is any more likely? You've >completely disregarded the question of individual motivations-- >I believe people love, and will die for, their society, not their >State. And would love it more if it were just and non-coercive. > Well, there is nothing to stop *individual* members of the armed forces from going over, but I do not believe that it is nearly as likely that the whole organization will change sides as it is with a "private" military. It is a matter of precieved primary loyalty and motivation. The armed forces were *created* by the nation for the purpose of defending the nation, and the authority of its leadership comes from the natonal government, which has a vested interest in successful defense. Also the hiring(recruitment) policy is oriented towards loyalty to the nation. With a private organisation the origin and reason for its existence would(under your system) be *profit*, and the executive leadership would be responsible to the Board of Directors, so the organizations principle loyalty would be to money, not the nation and it could be bought out. Furthermore the hiring policy would *Strongly* emphasize loyalty to the *organization* not to Libertaria, so the rank and file would follow thier bosses and obey orders even to betray allied organizations. This is basically a variation on the reason why the police must be a public rather than a private organization - it is called "conflict of interest". -- Sarima (Stanley Friesen) UUCP: {ttidca|ihnp4|sdcrdcf|quad1|nrcvax|bellcore|logico}!psivax!friesen ARPA: ttidca!psivax!friesen@rand-unix.arpa