Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site psivax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!qantel!hplabs!sdcrdcf!psivax!friesen From: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Re: (micromotives & macrobehavior) Message-ID: <763@psivax.UUCP> Date: Mon, 30-Sep-85 12:20:49 EDT Article-I.D.: psivax.763 Posted: Mon Sep 30 12:20:49 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 7-Oct-85 03:16:30 EDT References: <3476@topaz.UUCP> <28200078@inmet.UUCP> <755@cybvax0.UUCP> <10414@ucbvax.ARPA> <1689@dciem.UUCP> Reply-To: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Organization: Pacesetter Systems Inc., Sylmar, CA Lines: 41 Summary: In article <1689@dciem.UUCP> mmt@dciem.UUCP (PUT YOUR NAME HERE) writes: > >> >> -- Rick. >Not knowing how to define "capitalist", I can't say, but the Enclyclopaedia >Britannica (1968 edition, so it's a bit out of date) lists the following >20th century famines: >1899-1901 Famine in India; 1,000,000 perished. The government spent I doubt this was a proper capitalistic economy, more likely a colonial dependent economy, subordinate to the British government. >1905 Famine in Russia (Feudal or capitalist?) Definately feudal, or maybe imperialistic, but *not* capitalistic. >1916 Famine in China (Capitalist?) Imperialistic, not capitalistic(in fact Nationalist China is still not a captalistic country) >1921 Famine in USSR (Not the Stalin-induced one) Ditto. >1932-33 Famine in USSR (Ukraine, I suppose) Ditto >1943 Famine in Bengal; about 1,500,000 perished (capitalist) Hmm, well I strongly suspect this wasn't really a capitalistic economy either, tho I don't know for sure. >1960-61 Famine in the Congo quickly relieved by the United Nations. And Congo is a confederation of *tribes*, with an essentially tribal based economy, with a thin venier of government supported industry. > Basically the only ones that have any chance of a real claim to a capitalistic economy are India and Bengal. The others are all quite different in basic orientation and structure. The problem is that even today there are *very* few countries that properly speaking have a true capitalistic economy, and even most of those have thrown in a few socialistic variations. I can think of USA, Canada, Australia, Switzerland, Great Britain , and maybe a few others. -- Sarima (Stanley Friesen) UUCP: {ttidca|ihnp4|sdcrdcf|quad1|nrcvax|bellcore|logico}!psivax!friesen ARPA: ttidca!psivax!friesen@rand-unix.arpa