Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site calgary.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsri!ubc-vision!alberta!calgary!radford From: radford@calgary.UUCP (Radford Neal) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Day to day life in Libertaria Message-ID: <437@calgary.UUCP> Date: Mon, 7-Oct-85 00:42:24 EDT Article-I.D.: calgary.437 Posted: Mon Oct 7 00:42:24 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 7-Oct-85 23:27:52 EDT References: <139@mck-csc.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: University of Calgary, Calgary, Alberta Lines: 46 > 2 people, A and B, own property directly next to each other. Person A > likes to play his stereo late at night to the repeated annoyance of person B. > What would be the correct responce for person B? > > For the purposes of this question, please assume a world in which your > favorite philosophy was the dominant one. > > Bernie Gunther > mit-eddie!mck-csc!bmg By my variety of libertarianism: One owns rights, not things. It is very convenient to own these rights in packages associated with objects. For instance, owning the right to drive car A forward and car B in reverse, but not car A backward and B forward would be pretty useless. Hence the usual notion of property as physical objects. But this is not the general case. So the question comes down to: Does person A own the right to produce loud noises at night on "his" land (or more exactly, neighboring land)? If he does, fine. If not, those who own a right to silence can complain. Lets assume that at one time all the land in the neighborhood was owned (completely, all rights) by a developer, who subdivided it into lots which were individually sold. Presumably the developer could decide which rights get sold (or establish a mechanism which buyers agree to abide by for deciding which rights residents have). There are obvious possible motives for not selling all the rights, given that he guarantees a consistent scheme to all buyers. Assuming that problems like this really are significant, one can imagine a structure resembling a municipal government, complete with zoning laws, emerging. The difference from present governments would be that "laws" are the result of voluntary contracts, not political power. Note that I'm not saying this structure would really arise - maybe social pressure is sufficient to stop loud music without a bureaucracy, or maybe there's a better way which the market would discover. But the market could solve the problem this way it there is nothing better. Radford Neal