Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site dciem.UUCP Path: utzoo!dciem!mmt From: mmt@dciem.UUCP (Martin Taylor) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Re: (micromotives & macrobehavior) -- famines Message-ID: <1711@dciem.UUCP> Date: Tue, 8-Oct-85 19:34:52 EDT Article-I.D.: dciem.1711 Posted: Tue Oct 8 19:34:52 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 8-Oct-85 20:25:56 EDT References: <3476@topaz.UUCP> <28200078@inmet.UUCP> <755@cybvax0.UUCP> <10414@ucbvax.ARPA> <1689@dciem.UUCP> <763@psivax.UUCP> Reply-To: mmt@dciem.UUCP (PUT YOUR NAME HERE) Organization: D.C.I.E.M., Toronto, Canada Lines: 19 Summary: OK, so my Britannica list of famines didn't include any in capitalist countries -- because, as Sarima pointed out, there ARE no capitalist countries. But in the spirit of the original question, as to whether there were any famines not attributable to socialism (not the wording of the question, but the implication), I think the list suggests quite well that famines happen as Britannica says, because of lack of supply, lack of transport for distribution, or lack of organization. In particular, the Indian solution that aborted many famines (according to Britannica) was a neat mix of quasi-socialist and quasi-capitalist ideas: Don't give direct relief, but start massive public works so that everyone will have money to buy food with (this only worked after the railways were built). It's funny that none of the critical comment mentioned this part of my original posting. -- Martin Taylor {allegra,linus,ihnp4,floyd,ubc-vision}!utzoo!dciem!mmt {uw-beaver,qucis,watmath}!utcsri!dciem!mmt