Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: $Revision: 1.6.2.16 $; site inmet.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!harvard!think!inmet!janw From: janw@inmet.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Logic, fact, preference, and social Message-ID: <28200162@inmet.UUCP> Date: Tue, 8-Oct-85 21:37:00 EDT Article-I.D.: inmet.28200162 Posted: Tue Oct 8 21:37:00 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 12-Oct-85 05:38:38 EDT References: <234@umich.UUCP> Lines: 31 Nf-ID: #R:umich:-23400:inmet:28200162:000:1412 Nf-From: inmet!janw Oct 8 21:37:00 1985 > [torek@umich] > ... My point is that libertarianism is > unacceptable to any rational person. The reason for this is that sometimes > libertarianism would bar coercion in "free-rider" (= N-person prisoner's > dilemma, for game-theory-ignorant people like Nat) situations even when > everyone in the situation DOES prefer the outcome that results when coercion > is used, and nobody's preference is irrational. No, given the premise, conclusion does not follow. The fact that following a principle (in this case non-coercion) sometimes yields a sub-optimal solution in particular situations does *not* make that principle unacceptable to any rational person. A ra- tional person would consider the alternatives: (1) following another principle - which might sometimes yield even worse solu- tions or (2) calculating benefits case by case - which is uneconomical, and also (very important) makes one susceptible to irrational biases and temptations of the moment; a principle em- bodied in habit is a safeguard. E.g., an alcoholic forgoes a sip of wine that could do him good, sticking to a larger determination to stop drinking. His principle is momentarily suboptimal but not irrational. Now substitute coercion for alcohol and society for the alcoholic. In particular, some rational people support the First Amendment, which could not stand your kind of test. Jan Wasilewsky