Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site psivax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!ihnp4!qantel!hplabs!sdcrdcf!psivax!friesen From: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Day to day life in Libertaria Message-ID: <788@psivax.UUCP> Date: Thu, 10-Oct-85 16:33:45 EDT Article-I.D.: psivax.788 Posted: Thu Oct 10 16:33:45 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 14-Oct-85 05:37:09 EDT References: <139@mck-csc.UUCP> <437@calgary.UUCP> Reply-To: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen) Distribution: net Organization: Pacesetter Systems Inc., Sylmar, CA Lines: 49 Summary: In article <437@calgary.UUCP> radford@calgary.UUCP (Radford Neal) writes: > >By my variety of libertarianism: > >One owns rights, not things. > >It is very convenient to own these rights in packages associated with objects. >For instance, owning the right to drive car A forward and car B in reverse, >but not car A backward and B forward would be pretty useless. Hence the >usual notion of property as physical objects. But this is not the general >case. > . . . > >Lets assume that at one time all the land in the neighborhood was owned >(completely, all rights) by a developer, who subdivided it into lots which >were individually sold. Presumably the developer could decide which rights >get sold (or establish a mechanism which buyers agree to abide by for deciding >which rights residents have). There are obvious possible motives for not >selling all the rights, given that he guarantees a consistent scheme to all >buyers. > This sounds an awful lot like feudalism, in which recieved rights in some productive resource are sublet to contrators in return for value(services) recieved/rendered. >Assuming that problems like this really are significant, one can imagine a >structure resembling a municipal government, complete with zoning laws, >emerging. The difference from present governments would be that "laws" are >the result of voluntary contracts, not political power. > or maybe there's a better way which >the market would discover. But the market could solve the problem this way >it there is nothing better. > Well, not exactly a voluntary contract, the original developer has essentially a buyers market and can dictate terms of the contract. (i.e buy under my terms or not at all). In fact the developer would become the defacto government of the area by setting up the rules, and by providing mechanisms for thier enforcement. Again very much like feudalism, or like the private local communities that already exist here in the US.(I saw an advertisement for one on TV the other day). -- Sarima (Stanley Friesen) UUCP: {ttidca|ihnp4|sdcrdcf|quad1|nrcvax|bellcore|logico}!psivax!friesen ARPA: ttidca!psivax!friesen@rand-unix.arpa