Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: $Revision: 1.6.2.16 $; site inmet.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!harvard!bbnccv!inmet!janw From: janw@inmet.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Re: (micromotives & macrobehavior) Message-ID: <28200166@inmet.UUCP> Date: Sat, 12-Oct-85 21:58:00 EDT Article-I.D.: inmet.28200166 Posted: Sat Oct 12 21:58:00 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 15-Oct-85 07:39:20 EDT References: <762@psivax.UUCP> Lines: 29 Nf-ID: #R:psivax:-76200:inmet:28200166:000:1217 Nf-From: inmet!janw Oct 12 21:58:00 1985 > /* Written 3:35 pm Oct 9, 1985 by peter@graffiti in inmet:net.politics.t */ > > >1916 Famine in China (Capitalist?) > > Imperialistic, not capitalistic(in fact Nationalist China is > > still not a captalistic country) > > I've heard of imperialistic social structures, but this is the first I > have heard of an imperialist economic structure. How does it work? There seems to be some confusion on all sides here: (1) The term "imperialism" as applied to economic structures ex- ists but, as far as I know, only in Leninist literature. It is based on Lenin's work "Imperialism as the last and highest stage of capitalism". What he meant was early 20th century capitalism with such features as multinational corporations and colonial em- pires. The term certainly doesn't apply to China. (2) Empire in China was toppled in 1911. In 1916 China was, officially, a republic (and it had a second revolution that year). (3) By no reasonable standards was China capitalist in 1916. Official Chinese historians, I believe, call it feudalistic - but it was not like European feudalism. It was the traditional Chinese system where government officials (mandarins) were the upper class. Jan Wasilewsky