Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site mck-csc.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!ucbvax!ucdavis!lll-crg!gymble!umcp-cs!seismo!harvard!think!mck-csc!bmg From: bmg@mck-csc.UUCP (Bernard M. Gunther) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Day to day life Message-ID: <146@mck-csc.UUCP> Date: Thu, 10-Oct-85 15:51:18 EDT Article-I.D.: mck-csc.146 Posted: Thu Oct 10 15:51:18 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 17-Oct-85 01:42:54 EDT References: <139@mck-csc.UUCP> <437@calgary.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: McKinsey & Company, Cambridge Systems Center Lines: 42 > > 2 people, A and B, own property directly next to each other. Person A > > likes to play his stereo late at night to the repeated annoyance of person B. > > What would be the correct responce for person B? > > By my variety of libertarianism: > > One owns rights, not things. > > It is very convenient to own these rights in packages associated with objects. > > Assuming that problems like this really are significant, one can imagine a > structure resembling a municipal government, complete with zoning laws, > emerging. The difference from present governments would be that "laws" are > the result of voluntary contracts, not political power. Note that I'm not > saying this structure would really arise - maybe social pressure is sufficient > to stop loud music without a bureaucracy, or maybe there's a better way which > the market would discover. But the market could solve the problem this way > it there is nothing better. > > Radford Neal hum... This sounds like it would have to ability to degenerate *very* quickly (in terms of genereations) into something very close to what we presently have. Assuming that at one time, the owner of all the rights in a given area are determined and this person then sells of parts wtih mechanisms for dealing with rights not currently immagined or foreseen, then wouldn't this be very similar to our present government, with the single exception that the origianl owner not was the government? You can view the US government as a corporation or entity and all the laws passed since its formation as extensions allowed for in the original contract. How would you prevent the society you propose from becoming like the one we presently have? It sounds like a nice idea in the begining (much like the west during the settlement of the part of the country), but it would appear to me to break down very rapidly. Bernie Gunther