Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site l5.uucp Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!decwrl!sun!l5!laura From: laura@l5.uucp (Laura Creighton) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Free lunches Message-ID: <196@l5.uucp> Date: Wed, 16-Oct-85 10:16:45 EDT Article-I.D.: l5.196 Posted: Wed Oct 16 10:16:45 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 18-Oct-85 20:25:32 EDT References: <8509171814.AA23399@ucbopal.Berkeley.Edu> <1803@psuvax1.UUCP> <149@l5.uucp> <1712@dciem.UUCP> Reply-To: laura@l5.UUCP (Laura Creighton) Organization: Ell-Five [Consultants], San Francisco Lines: 42 A little context would be useful, Martin. But it is more fun to talk about solar energy, of course. In case anyone missed it, though, the Free Lunch problem is not about energy resources. The Free Lunch problem is about the cherished belief that it is possible to get something for nothing. This belief fuels mutch of organised gambling, lotteries, and (alas) political campaigns. There may be nothing that one can do, (or that one wants to do) about this shining belief. However, the way that politicians use this belief to get elected is sickenning. How many election promises come with a price tag? Most don't. The advocates of a protective tarrif just do not get around to telling the taxpayers that they are paying taxes to support the bureacrats who administer the tarrif. Or that they will be paying again when they have to pay the inflated prices. Those who could make a profit selling a new product based on the untarriffed product are not told that they are going to be hurt because they cannot afford it at a new rate. The advocates of a minimum wage simply do not get around to telling you that they are causing wide-spread unemployment among the unskilled who would be willing to work for less money. The advocates of socialised medicine do not tell you what studies of the *quality* of health care have shown has happened in England and Canada. The hidden costs simply do not get mentioned. Often even the not-very-hidden costs are also not mentioned. And the relationship between the not-very-hidden costs and my income tax next year is always unclear. But Reagan can promise to spend more for the military, not cut the level of support provided for the deserving poor and not raise taxes -- AND HE CAN GET ELECTED. Astonishing. But it would be so nice to believe that this is possible, and if it had a chance of working it would be such a great thing, and politicians can't make irresponsible statements like that in public, can they? I really can get all of this for free.... -- Laura Creighton sun!l5!laura (that is ell-five, not fifteen) l5!laura@lll-crg.arpa