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From: kanner@tymix.UUCP (Herb Kanner)
Newsgroups: net.rec.photo
Subject: Re: Prints from Slides (Cibachrome)
Message-ID: <561@tymix.UUCP>
Date: Wed, 23-Oct-85 12:56:07 EDT
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In article <5767@tekecs.UUCP> tomb@tekecs.UUCP (Tom Beach) writes:
>I agree completely with your assesment of the importance of dye stability
>and agree that Ciba may be unexcelled in this area. Unfortunately my
>opinion remains that for my work at least, I still prefer internegatives
>and standard print materials.

I've spoken of this before, so I'll be brief.  Consider Ektachrome 22 paper
as a pretty good compromise for prints from slides.  

First there was Kodak 2203 paper, made in USA, and Ektachrome 14, made in
France by Kodak Pathe/France.  For some years, the Ektachrome 14 was not
available in USA.  Then, Ektachrome 22 replaced Ektachrome 14.  Allegedly
better colors and obviously lower contrast.

Published report:  In Darkroom Techniques, a bimonthly mag published in
Chicago, Preston Seaton (I think) published an article comparing the color
rendition of the same slide using 2203, 14, 22, and the new Ciba.  The 22
result was in his opinion clearly the best.  Of course, you just can't
confirm this by looking at the magazine reproductions.

Personal experience:  This was in both cases with 2203, which is definitely
inferior to 22.  First, while I was still using color negs and printing
from them, and was just starting to print slides directly, I had an
interneg made from a slide and compared the best print I could do from it
to a direct reversal print.  The latter was far better.  The interneg was
made by Kodak.  Second, a friend of mine, using a Mamiya with
interchangeable backs, took a number of pictures both on Ektachrome and on
color neg film.  He is very experienced at printing from negs.  We compared
his best prints to prints I made from his Ektachrome transparencies on
2203.  The 2203 was the winner.  He concluded that in future, he would use
negs only for portrait work, where he wanted subdued colors.
-- 
Herb Kanner
Tymnet, Inc.
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