Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site oberon.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!qantel!hplabs!sdcrdcf!oberon!walker From: walker@oberon.UUCP (Mike Walker) Newsgroups: net.philosophy,net.religion Subject: Re: a cross-posting request Message-ID: <129@oberon.UUCP> Date: Wed, 2-Oct-85 02:43:47 EDT Article-I.D.: oberon.129 Posted: Wed Oct 2 02:43:47 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 7-Oct-85 03:23:39 EDT References: <244@frog.UUCP> <1047@umcp-cs.UUCP> <2079@sunybcs.UUCP> Organization: U. of So. Calif., Los Angeles Lines: 23 Xref: watmath net.philosophy:2810 net.religion:7899 > It is intellectually myopic to assert that a rationalist philosphy does > not have faith (i.e., a belief system) at its base. > > As the 19th-century Presbyterian theologian R. L. Dabney so succinctly put it: > > "The pretended warfare between reason and faith is waged by all those who > wish to make a pretext for believing unreasonably and wickedly." > > Let all philosophers own up to their beliefs or else admit that knowledge > (and philosophy) is impossible. Pardon a late follow up: Faith/belief can be based on reason and fact. I beleive (have faith) that if I pick something up and let go of it, it will fall. Whether religions have any basis in fact and reason is another question. A philsophical system can be based on many things but if it is to be rational shouldn't it have a basis in observable fact? -- Michael D. Walker (Mike) Arpa: walker@oberon.ARPA Uucp: {the (mostly unknown) world}!ihnp4!sdcrdcf!oberon!walker {several select chunks}!sdcrdcf!oberon!walker