Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ucdavis.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!ucbvax!ucdavis!up547413042 From: up547413042@ucdavis.UUCP (up547413042) Newsgroups: net.politics,net.religion Subject: Re: "Secular Humanism" banned in the US Schools. Message-ID: <143@ucdavis.UUCP> Date: Fri, 11-Oct-85 20:17:13 EDT Article-I.D.: ucdavis.143 Posted: Fri Oct 11 20:17:13 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 13-Oct-85 04:29:21 EDT References: <11384@rochester.UUCP> <615@hou2g.UUCP> Organization: University of California, Davis Lines: 38 Xref: watmath net.politics:11454 net.religion:7955 > > >You are over looking the fundamental difference between a church and a school. > >The church is free to teach whatever it wants simply because it is a private > >organization and not subject to any state or federal guide lines concerning > >public education. > > I have no qualms about this, although I would say the church is a private > organization because it teaches whatever it wants, not the other way around. > That's what the separation of church and state is all about. > > >The school on the other hand, that is public schools, is a public organization > >set up to teach the sum total of man's endeavors, be it math, evolution, or > >religion. The poeple being taught in these public schools have a right to > >ALL the information concerning mankind on earth, and this definitely should > >include the concept of creationism. > > > > WRONG! The public school system is NOT the place for religion of any kind. > I can't believe schools were set up to teach THE SUM TOTAL OF MAN's > ENDEAVORS. Schools (public) are there to teach the minimum necessary > for a person to survive in our society. That's why it's compulsory. > Sometimes they fail even at that. Religion is NOT necessary to survive > in our society. I've survived quite nicely without, thank you. > > What people ARE taught is the ability to *gather and analyze* all knowledge, > so as to make informed CHOICES about which religion, if any, to follow. > That's why we are taught to read and to use a library, and why we, as a > nation, value free speech. Free speech doesn't mean compulsory speech. > Neither does freedom of religion mean compulsory religion. > > End of "sermon", > > Scott J. Berry Mr. Barry forgot to add that creationism is *NOT* information. It's not even science. It's an unprovable idea. Chris Young.