Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site sdcrdcf.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!oliveb!hplabs!sdcrdcf!barryg From: barryg@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Lee Gold) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Beacon from a lost sheep from 11 lightyears away. Message-ID: <2409@sdcrdcf.UUCP> Date: Tue, 15-Oct-85 11:38:13 EDT Article-I.D.: sdcrdcf.2409 Posted: Tue Oct 15 11:38:13 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 19-Oct-85 05:20:26 EDT References: <808@nmtvax.UUCP> Reply-To: barryg@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Lee Gold) Organization: System Development Corp. R+D, Santa Monica Lines: 88 Summary: Hello there, O alien/lost sheep Nice to hear from you. Maybe I should follow your approach and start out with where I'm coming from. I was raised as a Reform Jew in Los Angeles, as were my parents. My Jewish education didn't include any Hebrew but lots of history and a fair amount of theology/learning standard prayers. We didn't touch on the Holocaust until the senior year (when we were 14). We'd spent the previous year on Comparative Religion, which included studying the Christian Bible and learning where it went wrong. We did have to attend synagogue and sign in a certain number of times (I think it was 30) during the senior year in order to graduate religious school. Dissent was allowed as much at religious school as elsewhere. I remember once telling our rabbi I didn't like his saying during the course of the service, "And now we rise for the watchword of our faith, the Shema." It seemed all too much like a commercial. He smiled and said wistfully, "But you see, not everybody in the congregation went to religious school, and some of them don't know it's our watchword. I feel I have to tell them." I forget what I as a 13-year-old had to say to that, but I do remember the discussion went on for some time. Our religious school teachers were fairly persuasive but I don't remember any spellbinders. And of course in a Reform temple, there weren't many you'd call militant traditionalists. We were taught that Jews had chosen to accept the obligations and traditions of our religion--and had therefore wound up with a wonderful faith, one that coudl be believed in the modern age of science without having to compartmentalize one's mind into matters of science which were subject to common sense--and matters of faith that weren't. We were taught that non-Jews had their own religions which were good enough for them (at least provided they followed the Noachic laws) but not good enough for us. We were certainly not taught any paranoia about non-Jews in America, though we did learn that they had behaved very cruelly over the years to our ancestors. The Syrian persecution, the Roman persecution, the Inquisition, the Holocaust were all part of the same picture--showing how ignorance, fear, and propaganda could turn human beings into cruel mobs. I spent my last few years of religious school watching coverage of the Korean War, not the Viet Nam War. My parent sometimes spanked me but never beat me. My father was an atheist who called himself Jewish in order not to give any ground to Anti-semites. My mother celebrated Passover and attended services on the High Holidays. I was a rebel nonconformist who wanted to have more Judaism in my life. I married a man who fell in the same category and we've been very happy ever since. Now down to the text of your letter. Judaism does not say you have to feel the presence of God. It doesn't even put all that much emphasis on believing in God. Having your good deeds exceed your faith is preferble to the reverse. It's a truism that Judaism is not an Orthodoxy (right-faith) but an Orthopraxy (right-conduct). Judaism prides itself of having lots of mitzvot (commandments) which sanctify us (as in the standard prayer beginning). It also stresses that the Law3 was given to live by, not die by, and that all but a few of these command- ments MUST be broken to save human life--and sanity. I'm glad you've come back a fair ways to regaining joy in life and trustd in other human beings. You might indeed want to give Judaism a try again. If you really feel that giving up shrimp sushi would be impossible, then by all means give Reform Judaism a try. Strogonoff can be made with fake sour cream which is fine unless you're on a low cholesterol diet. And you're not on that if you're eating lobster and shrimp. There's certainly nothing tref about the various fish sushi with yellowtail, smoked salmon, tuna, etc.--unless you're abiding by the Orthodox interpretation of the commandment about not eating meat with blood to mean you can't eat things raw. (Even then, the smoked slamon would be OK.) Maybe someone will enlighten me as to how croissants are non-kosher. Whether or not you're Jewish, you will never be able to control your own destiny outright. You're only one person in a world with billions, and your destiny is influenced by the economy, international politics, and all sorts of things you can't control. There's a lot more to Judaism than the siege mentality of your upbringing. You might want to give the other wings of the religion a look. I imagine you'll eventually find a group that makes you feel comfortable; Judaism has room for lots of variety. Please feel free to reply to me, either on the net or personally. With a letter this long, I'd have sent it as a personal reply but couldn't figure out enough of your address to do so. Good luck. Sincerely, Lee Gold ...ucbvax!ucla-cs!lcc!barry (or use the sdcrdcf address if there's enough of it to be readable)