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From: slerner@sesame.UUCP (Simcha-Yitzchak Lerner)
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Subject: Re: Re: Quoting Mr. Feinstein and The Jewish Press
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Date: Sat, 19-Oct-85 23:28:44 EDT
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Two responces: one on being at birth, other on jewish press:


> 
> > >    As a postscript to this, I would like to bring up the recent psak
> > >    halacha decided on by Rev Moshe Feinstein and the North American
> > >    Rabbinate (all males, of course) regarding the ban on husbands
> > >    accompanying their wives into birthing rooms. ...
> 
> > 	Where did you see this BS about what R. Moshe Feinstein said?

All I can say is that in Lubovitch (we are not known for taking liberal/
modern views) the Rabbis who teach classes for chosen/callah (groom/bride)
teach that it is OK to be at the birth *IF*:

1.  Husband does NOT touch wife (since she is niddah)
2.  He must stand where he can not see anything uncovered that he shouldn't
    see when wife is niddah.

While it gets harder to be there in person as your family grows (did you
ever try and get a babysitter at 3AM?), many Lubovitchers attend.

OK...Second topic:


>  
> The Jewish Press is the biggest embarrassment to the American Orthodox
> Jewish Community that could be imagined by an anti-semite.  One can't
> believe anything written there--but in order to not believe it, first
> you have to try and understand it.  That isn't too easy 'cause the
> writers can't speak English, and the typographers are on LSD (yes, I
> really think so!).  My suggestion to anyone reading this is that they
> stop reading The Jewish Press (if they do), otherwise their brain may
> begin playing tricks on them and their command of English may deteriorate.

I must agree about the paper not being believable at all.  

About 9 years ago, in Atlanta, there was a discussion amoung various 
Rabbis about the jewish press.  One group said that you could not
take a J.P. into the bathroom or throw it out with garbage because
it contains torah (in several of the articles).  

The other group said the if you were to read the JP you MUST
read it in the bathroom (as otherwise it was bitul zman (wasting time
from true study)) and that the best use for it was to wrap the garbage!

[As in everything on this net, consult your local orthodox rabbi for
a final p'sak halacha :-) ]

peace..
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