Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site ittvax.ATC.ITT.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!petrus!bellcore!decvax!ittatc!ittvax!mls From: mls@ittvax.ATC.ITT.UUCP (Michael Schneider) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Women's participation in shul Message-ID: <496@ittvax.ATC.ITT.UUCP> Date: Mon, 21-Oct-85 08:00:24 EDT Article-I.D.: ittvax.496 Posted: Mon Oct 21 08:00:24 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 23-Oct-85 05:56:18 EDT References: <418@primesun.uucp> Organization: ITT-ATC, Shelton Ct. Lines: 25 I know of only one question asked regarding a woman performing an action associated with men: saying Kaddish. The wife of a friend of mine (who is an Orthodox Rabbi with smicha from the Rav) asked if she would be permitted to say the Kaddish for the 11 months following the death of her father (there were no sons). The answer was yes. But it must be done at the same time as a valid minyon davened and she should do it three times a day, as is required by a man. She did. To some extent, this points out some of the problems that can arise with women participation. They must assume ALL the obligations associated with the act they wish to perform. If, for example, a woman wished to be counted as part of a minyon, then should she not be required to perform all the mitzvot associated with this action? I expect someone will say "but not all men pray three times a day." Yet, a man does not voluntarily choose to take upon himself this obligation; in this case a woman does. I am unable to state the halacha regarding a woman's minyon. But, from what I have seen and heard, it appears to occur only on Shabbat. Note in the situation of a woman saying the Kaddish, it was not only on Shabbat, but for the full period required of a man. I sometimes wonder if women realize the obligations they wish to take on. Michael L. Schneider *** REPLACE THIS LINE WITH YOUR MESSAGE ***