Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mit-eddie.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!harvard!think!mit-eddie!jbs From: jbs@mit-eddie.UUCP (Jeff Siegal) Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: Re: matter transmission, etc. Message-ID: <35@mit-eddie.UUCP> Date: Tue, 8-Oct-85 16:31:25 EDT Article-I.D.: mit-eddi.35 Posted: Tue Oct 8 16:31:25 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 11-Oct-85 08:13:46 EDT References: <> <331@proper.UUCP> <144@codas.UUCP> <587@h-sc1.UUCP> Reply-To: jbs@mit-eddie.UUCP (Jeff Siegal) Distribution: net Organization: MIT, Cambridge, MA Lines: 21 In article <587@h-sc1.UUCP> moews_b@h-sc1.UUCP (david moews) writes: > But...computers store data by moving around electrons, so the data >in a computer's memory *is* included in the structure of the "matter" in the >computer. If all the electron positions were recorded correctly, the >computer would presumably continue running with no problems. Anyway, it's >not clear that the matter vs. energy distinction is really relevant at >this level (one might view a photon as a material particle instead of >an energy packet), so matter transmitters will have to scan all the >mass/energy in an object (somehow) before reproducing it. Wrong! The position of an electron is NOT sufficient information to reproduce the state of the object (be it a computer memory, human mind, or whatever). The momentium of the electron is an independant quantity which must be measured and reproduced. Now, here is the relevant point: Modern quantum mechanics tells us that the lower limit for the product of the uncertainty obtained when measuring the position of an electon and its momentium is h, Plank's constant. So, it appears this is the end of the line for matter transmittion....(unless...:-)) Jeff Siegal - MIT EECS