Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83 based; site hou2h.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!houxm!hou2h!mr From: mr@hou2h.UUCP (M.RINDSBERG) Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: Re: Human transportation by UUCP Message-ID: <1087@hou2h.UUCP> Date: Fri, 11-Oct-85 10:49:14 EDT Article-I.D.: hou2h.1087 Posted: Fri Oct 11 10:49:14 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 12-Oct-85 18:35:04 EDT References: <> <344@proper.UUCP>, <447@calgary.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 42 > In <344@proper.UUCP>, Carl Greenberg writes: > > If you can do that, look at travel. If I want to go over and visit > > a friend of mine on the USENET, I leave a backup copy at home in case UUCP > > fails and my friend will just download the copy that travels. ZAP! I can > > take a short vacation in the time it takes for this message to travel to > > him. > > Carl Greenberg > > Interesting idea! I wonder how long it would take to transport the typical > human via UUCP.... Well, let's assume a mass of, say, 50 kg. If we assume > that the average molecule in the human body is water, then we've got > approximately ( 5e4 g * 6e23/18 molecules/g ) = 1.7e27 molecules. Let's > assume an effective throughput of 800 baud. (We may want to add extra What if we use a throughput of a the full bandwidth of a fiber cable. Say 2 Ghz. , then 1Gbit/s (~maximum) . This is still too slow. Therefore we must wait about 100 years till we can do this. > error checking which will slow this down.) If we manage to come up with, > say, a dozen data compressions, each of which compresses the data by an > order of magnitude, and if the initial data requires one bit per molecule > to represent, then it should take us ( 1.7e27 bits / 800 bps / 1e12 ) = > 2e12 seconds, or about 63000 years. Hmmm, looks like this is going to be > a longer vacation than we had anticipated.... > > Well, we're not about to be discouraged by this. Instead, let's turn it > around and figure out the effective baud rate of a human walking across > the country. We'll pick a distance of 4000 miles or so, an average walking > speed of 2 mph, with time out for eating and sleeping leaving about 8 hours > per day for actual walking. That gives us a data transfer rate of roughly > ( 1.7e27 bits * 2 mph / 4000 miles * 1/3 ) = 2.8e23 bits per hour, or > about 1e27 baud. Hey, that's pretty good! Even if the human body has an > information content of only, say, 1 part in 1e15, that still gives us > 1e12 baud. The catch, of course, is that the data has been severely > corrupted by the time it arrives at its destination. Oh well, you have > to expect to lose something at that kind of data transfer rate. > > Alan Dewar > ..!{ihnp4,ubc-vision}!alberta!calgary!dewar > dewar.calgary.ubc@csnet-relay.ARPA > >