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From: chai@utflis.UUCP (Henry Chai)
Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers
Subject: Re: feminist sf/fantasy(Norton & Anthony)
Message-ID: <310@utflis.UUCP>
Date: Sat, 19-Oct-85 15:11:53 EDT
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Posted: Sat Oct 19 15:11:53 1985
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Summary: 

In article <4052@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> Caro.PA@Xerox.ARPA writes:
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>* Witch World, etc., by Andre Norton
>Another male writer who espouses feminist views.  His female characters
>are also very well written.
>

Oh my GAAAWD! My favorite sf/fantasy writer, full name Alice Mary Norton,
once dubbed as the "Grand Dame of sf", called a "male".
A big brrrrphphph (raspberry) to you, Caro !-)

Actually Andre is now her official name.  When she started to write,
she used the name Andrew North, and later, Andre Norton.  Since then she has
written a whole lot of books with this name, so she decided to 
have her "real" name changed officially .  All this because way back then 
(1950's) there was no such thing as a female sf writer.  

She doesn't like to go to conventions. Also, she's already semi-retired now,
so she's not well known (but her books are still widely available).
I like all her Witch World books (a dozen or so of them ).
Lately her stories have become, ur, let's say predictable (rather then
boring).  But with some newer ones she collaborated with another person,
and these are quite good.

>* A Spell For Chameleon, The Source Of Magic, Castle Roogna, etc., Piers
>Anthony
>I've found Piers Anthony to be an author who, unlike many others, has no
>problem at all with feminist doctrine.
>

AARRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHH!!  I'd like to hit anyone who'd recommand the Xanth
novels to a feminist.  THEY ARE SEXIST TO THE EXTREME !!!!!!!
I mean, do you think that in a land where every female tries to look
pretty, wants to show off their legs, and schemes to catch men 
for husbands, there is equality among the sexes?  
Now I'm not sure whether Piers Anthony did it tongue-in-cheek or not,
since this sexsim appear only briefly in the Blue Adept trilogy and 
the Cluster novels, and not in the other books by him that I've read.
(I haven't read any of his recent stuff, they sort of put me off after
the first few chapters).  Anyway I'm not the only person who find the 
Xanth novels sexist.  I have no idea what you mean by "female doctrine" 
if you believe that a feminist would enjoy these books.
And another bbbrrrrphphphph to you ! >:-(
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Henry Chai 
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