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From: dimitrov@csd2.UUCP (Isaac Dimitrovsky)
Newsgroups: net.singles
Subject: Re: Nominally single????
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Date: Sat, 5-Oct-85 12:38:00 EDT
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Posted: Sat Oct  5 12:38:00 1985
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William Ingogly writes:
>>> ... The relationships that last are the result of plain old hard 
>>> work and dedication, folks, with a small element of luck thrown in. 
>>> There's nothing magical about sex OR love. 
>>
>> [pooh replies]
>> Yow!  can you say "cynicism"?  
>> I'm sorry if you are as disillusioned as you appear,
>> Bill, because I can still find some magic out there
>> in places.  It's not something that you can depend on;
>> it's fleeting, like a butterfly.  But you can still
>> find it.
>
> Cynicism? I don't think so. What seems like cynicism to you seems like
> realism from my side of the fence.
> ...

Thanks, William, for a really good note. Your response to pooh was
roughly what I was thinking when reading her note, but you expressed
yourself a lot better than I could have.

I seem to remember a Charlie Chaplin movie in which there was a song
which went, in its entirety, "Love Love Love Love Love Love Love Love
Love Love [repeated about forty times]" (If anybody can remember
which movie it was, I'd appreciate the name). I think it summed up
our culture about as well as anything. Maybe the reason that Madonna's
song "Material Girl" became so popular is that its message, while
somewhat despicable, still provides a refreshing contrast to the
unrelieved insipidness of the fifty thousand other "Love Love Love ..."
songs around.

To me, the funniest thing about the way this True Love myth has been
sold in US society is the way the private lives of some of the most
prominent people used to sell it have differed so wildly from the myth.
In many cases, you have the feeling that if these people had
deliberately tried to live a life as different from the myth they sold
as possible, they could not have done any better. Check out the life
of Rock Hudson. Or Doris Day. Or Elvis Presley. Or John Lennon. Or
go to a bookstore and sneak a look at Hollywood Babylon II. Before the
flames start arriving, I should say that I'm not criticizing any of
these people. They chose to live their life their way, and that's fine
with me. What I'm saying is that when you compare the reality of these
people's lives with the myth they were used to sell, this should raise
a question in your mind about the myth. Or give you a laugh, if you
like irony.

My feelings are that it's a bit much to expect my SO to give me a
regular dose of magic. I'll settle for someone who'll be a good
friend to me, and who is also willing to settle for someone who'll
be a good friend to her. We can then try to make each other happy
for whatever time we have on this earth until we kick the bucket.
(I imagine this all sounds pretty dull to y'all).

Isaac Dimitrovsky
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