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From: hammond@steinmetz.UUCP (Steve Hammond)
Newsgroups: net.singles
Subject: Re: Re: Nominally single????
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Date: Wed, 9-Oct-85 08:16:50 EDT
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> William Ingogly writes:
> >>> ... The relationships that last are the result of plain old hard 
> >>> work and dedication, folks, with a small element of luck thrown in. 
> >>> There's nothing magical about sex OR love. 
> >>
> >> [pooh replies]
> >> Yow!  can you say "cynicism"?  
> >> I'm sorry if you are as disillusioned as you appear,
> >> Bill, because I can still find some magic out there
> >> in places.  It's not something that you can depend on;
> >> it's fleeting, like a butterfly.  But you can still
> >> find it.
> >
> > Cynicism? I don't think so. What seems like cynicism to you seems like
> > realism from my side of the fence.
> > ...
> 
> [Isacc Dimitrovsky]
> To me, the funniest thing about the way this True Love myth has been
> sold in US society is the way the private lives of some of the most
> prominent people used to sell it have differed so wildly from the myth.
> In many cases, you have the feeling that if these people had
> deliberately tried to live a life as different from the myth they sold
> as possible, they could not have done any better. Check out the life
> of Rock Hudson. Or Doris Day. Or Elvis Presley. Or John Lennon. Or
> go to a bookstore and sneak a look at Hollywood Babylon II. Before the
> flames start arriving, I should say that I'm not criticizing any of
> these people. They chose to live their life their way, and that's fine
> with me. What I'm saying is that when you compare the reality of these
> people's lives with the myth they were used to sell, this should raise
> a question in your mind about the myth. Or give you a laugh, if you
> like irony.
> 
> My feelings are that it's a bit much to expect my SO to give me a
> regular dose of magic. I'll settle for someone who'll be a good
> friend to me, and who is also willing to settle for someone who'll
> be a good friend to her. We can then try to make each other happy
> for whatever time we have on this earth until we kick the bucket.
> (I imagine this all sounds pretty dull to y'all).
> 

Bravo Pooh, keep these two in line.  They both have their sights set
at their own feet.  Granted, any relationship (anything for that matter)
worth having is worth working for.  When is the last time that you
had something *real special* just given to you?  To go as far as to
say that there is nothing magical about sex OR love is absolutely
ludicrous.  Isaac and Bill, if all you want your SO to be is a good
friend then you probably won't find *any* magic at all, in anything.
Any sapient being should be able to distinguish between lovers and
friends.

I think that there is a real return to romance in the 80's.  I have
read some interesting articles about this.  I will quote one in
a followup posting, it's good but looong.  The example of John
Lennon and Rock Hudson are really obscure Isaac.  What do you know
about their love lives?  How do you know that they didn't find
magic with their chosen partners?  Their lives ended tragically
but I don't know that their pursuit of love was in vain as you try
to make us believe.

-- 
  Steve Hammond 
   arpa: hammond@ge-crd
   uucp: {...edison!}steinmetz!hammond

	the deepest  personal  defeat suffered by human beings is 
	constitued by the difference between what one was capable 
	of becoming and what one has in fact become.
					(a. montagu)