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From: ogre@whuts.UUCP (LOCOCO)
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Subject: Re: canesco(?), and the A's
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Date: Mon, 14-Oct-85 08:56:23 EDT
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Posted: Mon Oct 14 08:56:23 1985
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> > (Will there ever be group like
> > the '81 staff of Norris, Langford, Kingman, Keogh, McCatty !?!?!?!?!
> > that sh*thead Billy Martin @!#$%&^*()!@)
> > 					Sunny
> > 					One of the few A's fans left
> 
> Al Gates\^/  \/\          /      \/   \/\/  \/\      /    ^ \/  \^^^\
> responds:
> Hold on here!  If Billy Martin had not come to Oakland, I honestly believe
> they would not have experienced the two years of success that they had
> in 1980 and 1981.  He took a team that lost 108 games in 1979, and got
> them to finish above .500.  
> 
> Had Billy Martin used the bullpen in 1980 and 1981 (and thus sparing his
> starters some innings) the A's would not have won as many games.  They would
> still be searching for their first AL West title since 1975.  Billy took a team
> that was going to be sub .500 for ten years and offered two years of decent
> baseball.  
> 
> Give Billy Martin a lot of credit.  If you want two good years out of a bad
> club, he can get it for you.  By the way, look at the great job he did with
> the Yankees this year.
> 
> Side note:  I am an avid Oakland A's fan as well.  We truly are a dying breed.

Hear hear! It's just a damn shame that the words I heard on the morning radio
were about the fourth firing of Martin from the Yanks. Wake up George! What
Billy does on his own time shouldn't affect your decisions on his career.
What's the matter? Did he steal the spotlight from you this year? So what,
the Yanks didn't make it this year. They wouldn't have been close without
Martin. 

Billy has been to the playoffs with I believe four teams (Minnesota, Detroit,
Oakland, and the Yankees). Are there any others I missed? How long did he
take to get there with these teams? It couldn't have been long; he has a
knack for getting fired. Is this a record with the number of teams he has
made it with? All I know is in my lifetime there were two great Managers:
Earl Weaver and Billy Martin. I don't think Casey Stengel can qualify cause
Martin was telling him what to do when he played back in the early fifties.

By the way I love you A's too! They are my AL West team and if I ever moved to
California it would be in the Bay Area. GO A's!

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