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From: ogre@whuts.UUCP (LOCOCO)
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Subject: Re: canesco(?), and the A's
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Date: Wed, 16-Oct-85 07:51:14 EDT
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> > > (Will there ever be group like
> > > the '81 staff of Norris, Langford, Kingman, Keogh, McCatty !?!?!?!?!
> > Hold on here!  If Billy Martin had not come to Oakland, I honestly believe
> 
> I'm glad you brought this up.  Let's look at our neighborhood team, the
> Orioles, who finished around five (six?) games over .500 this year.
       
>         I would give the nod to the A's in view of the
> fact that good pitching always beats good hitting, as proved as recently
> as the All-star game this year.  
> both teams....So I don't think Billy did such a hot job then (the A's
> would have done well with any competent - competent, not great - manager
> ;  and you can't tell me that I am comparing him to Weaver, one of the
> best in the game.  The truth is, he screwed up this year as well....
> with the very solid nucleus of Ripkin and Murray and a pitching staff
> that was impressive the previous year, he was only 5/6 games over.  So,
> Weaver should have done better also.  All things considered, Martin
> did an adequate job.);  nor did Billy do a good job 
> this year.  He should have won it, with the likes
> of Winfield, Henderson, Mattingly, Randolph, Guidry, etc.
> 
FLAME ON!
I think you should try reading the B.S. you wrote that I just extracted
from your article. You just don't like Billy. In one sentence you say
good pitching always beats good hitting (very true!) and in the next you
can't understand why Billy didn't win with the likes of five mentioned 
players including the only starting pitcher the Yankees have worth mentioning.
If the Yankees had the pitching the O's have on their staff, the Jays along
with the rest of the AL East would have eaten Yankee dust. Get off of your
Hate Martin kick; you just can't recognize good managerial talent or anything
else for that matter. Watch where any team goes with Weaver or Martin at the
helm from the BEGINNING of the season; so that the manager has a chance to
pound into his players the necessary basic skills in order to play good
baseball. Yogi is a great guy, but he is too easy on his players. 
FLAME OFF!

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