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From: gates@bdmrrr.UUCP (Al Gates)
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Subject: Re: canesco(?), and the A's
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Date: Wed, 16-Oct-85 08:33:37 EDT
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> ;  and you can't tell me that I am comparing him to Weaver, one of the
> best in the game.  The truth is, he screwed up this year as well....
> with the very solid nucleus of Ripkin and Murray and a pitching staff
> that was impressive the previous year, he was only 5/6 games over.  So,
> Weaver should have done better also.  All things considered, Martin
> did an adequate job.); 

I agree that Earl Weaver fouled up the Orioles this year.  That may have
been because Ray Miller left to manage Minnesota.  He is a whale of a
pitching coach.  Earl Weaver is as lost without Ray Miller as Billy Martin
is without Art Fowler.  The O's pitcher I am really disappointed in is
Storm Davis.  I expect he'll bounce back next year.  I never thought 
Boddicker was that good.  When I watch him live, it looks like his pitches
are moving about 40 miles per hour.  It seemed like he was getting creamed
in the early innings of each of his starts.  But back to Earl Weaver--
Weaver managed some fantastic talent in the last 20 years.  This year
was his first real test for the Orioles had some shortcomings going into
the season.  (at that time it was their hitting that was suspect)
Weaver will get an oppurtunity to prove himself next year, when he has a
full year to work with the team.  

I thought Joe Altobelli got a rotten deal.  He took the Orioles to the
world championship in 1983 and was completely forgotten two days after
he was fired.  It's too bad.  I liked his style of managing more than
Earl Weaver.  (for one thing he was willing to play for one run and have
hitters BUNT!)

side note: yes, I do follow the Orioles as well--I'm waiting for the day
when I can root for the WASHINGTON SENATORS!

-- 

Al Gates
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