Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site watmath.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!absary From: absary@watmath.UUCP (Al Sary) Newsgroups: net.sport.hockey Subject: Re: Re: Let's give some respect to the Vancouver Canucks Message-ID: <16826@watmath.UUCP> Date: Sat, 12-Oct-85 13:19:12 EDT Article-I.D.: watmath.16826 Posted: Sat Oct 12 13:19:12 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 13-Oct-85 04:38:21 EDT References: <7564@watrose.UUCP> <664@alberta.UUCP> <7569@watrose.UUCP> <669@alberta.UUCP> <7586@watrose.UUCP> <1704@dciem.UUCP> Distribution: net Organization: U of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 37 > > Well, I guess what you mean here is that a team's current ability > > should be based on their previous year's performance. > > > > I don't know if I agree with that totally. Sure the previous year indicates > > something. However, I think a team's past few years may give you a better > > indication of what you can expect from a team. > > I disagree. When a team has a year like the Canucks or Rangers had last year, > a lot of people will say, "they had a bad year; they're really a much better > team than their record last season indicates. They'll return to their previous > level this year." However, it just doesn't work that way. The record over an > 80 game season is a pretty good indication of the direction in which the team > is heading. The Chicago Black Hawks were a great team in 82/83, but they > followed it with a terrible 83/84. Everyone said, "they were just unlucky. > They had a bad year and a lot of injuries. They'll be great again in 84/85." > Well, they were better, but nowhere near as good as in 83/84.[you mean 82/83] I think you are saying the same thing as I was. Where were the Chicago Black Hawks in the years previous to 82/83 (just as an aside, they finished behind the Canucks in 82, which tells you the story). The Hawks have not been performing too well for years, so I am not surprised that they could not keep up their one year good performance. (but again, the reasons are arguable) > I know not everyone agrees with me, and we could argue back and forth about it > forever, so if anyone disagrees, there's no need to say anything unless you > can name some teams that have come back to their former level after one bad > year. Or after one good year. You just gave an example of that above. I know somebody has already said this, but I don't expect the Flyers to do as well as they did last year (although I hope I am wrong, and they win the Stanley cup because I really like Bobby Clark). Anyways, this is a discussion group (I think) so why not exchange ideas (but some people may not agree with this either).