Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site laidbak.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxn!ihnp4!laidbak!dpb From: dpb@laidbak.UUCP (Darryl Baker) Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards Subject: Re: TAR DOES NOT SWAP BYTES (3B20 tape block size) Message-ID: <268@laidbak.UUCP> Date: Tue, 15-Oct-85 23:51:43 EDT Article-I.D.: laidbak.268 Posted: Tue Oct 15 23:51:43 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 17-Oct-85 01:48:52 EDT References: <235@thunder.UUCP> <604@neuro1.UUCP> <2818@sun.uucp> <471@mtxinu.UUCP> <578@im4u.UUCP> <1473@gatech.CSNET> Reply-To: dpb@laidbak.UUCP (Darryl Baker) Organization: LAI Chicago Lines: 28 Summary: In article <1473@gatech.CSNET> arnold@gatech.CSNET (Arnold Robbins) writes: >In article <578@im4u.UUCP>, jsq@im4u.UUCP (John Quarterman) writes: >> >I think the problem is with the 3B20 tape drive, not with "tar" on the 3B20. My old job was in AT&T UN*X Support and the brain damage is in the un52 tape controller. ...... >The actual limit for blocks that can be written to and read from the tape >drive on the 3B20 is 6K (using the raw device). ...... >This limit really sucks. Whoever made that decision at AT&T must not have >been someone who actually had to move tapes around. When is AT&T going >to take their heads out of the sand? The 3B20s are hardware to run UNIX >on, not the other way around!!! >-- Yes, they really have problems with tapes. The first 3B20s had tape drives that could only handle 2K blocks. The second cut at tape drives had the 6K limit. The third cut (latest as of my leaving AT&T) did handle 10K at least but took a special IOP to handle it. This was because of the I/O bandwith of the dual serial channel. Too much other traffic and the streamer tape drive couldn't stream and was slower than the non-streamer. If they wanted the 3B20 to run well they would chuck the dual serial channel. -- from the sleepy terminal of Darryl Baker [ihnp4!]laidbak!dpb