Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.3 4.3bsd-beta 6/6/85; site ucbvax.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!ucbvax!ucbarpa!fair From: fair@ucbarpa.BERKELEY.EDU (Erik E. &) Newsgroups: net.unix-wizards Subject: Re: 2400 Baud Modems with MNP "Protocol" Message-ID: <10765@ucbvax.ARPA> Date: Tue, 22-Oct-85 07:04:18 EDT Article-I.D.: ucbvax.10765 Posted: Tue Oct 22 07:04:18 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 23-Oct-85 23:56:46 EDT References: <2306@brl-tgr.ARPA> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.ARPA Organization: University of California at Berkeley Lines: 31 In article <2306@brl-tgr.ARPA> fischer@RAND-UNIX.ARPA writes: > >With uucp, the MNP flow control will be incompatible, and thus one will >have to disable MNP. > >With Kermit, MNP is likely to play havoc particularly where the end-to-end >flow control needs to be preserved (likely at 2400 baud on systems which >might become busy), because MNP only appears to support modem to computer >flow control. > >For interactive computer access, if you need control-s or control-q, >e.g., if you use an editor like emacs ever, then again you might have >difficulties. My understanding of MNP was that it was a completely transparent error correction protocol. How it accomplishes this is not my concern (as a programmer) because the bytes get there. If my understanding is correct, it is merely redundant if the protocol being spoken between the two computers with MNP modems is error-corrected. If I read you right, you're saying that with MNP, the modem will show me the character it got in error, AND the correct representation, and possibly some modem-modem protocol besides. In other words, MNP is NOT transparent. Is that what you meant to say? I have a very hard time believing that, particularly in light of the rave reviews it has gotten around here from some of the computer center staff. Can someone post a description of the MNP protocol with particular attention to the transparency issue raised here? Erik E. Fair ucbvax!fair fair@ucbarpa.BERKELEY.EDU